December 21, 2012
Why Nate Silver is Not Just Wrong, but Maliciously Wrong
Cathy O’Neil argues that Nate Silver is wrong over at Naked Capitalism (via Alyssa Pelish):
I have major problems with this book and what it claims to explain. In fact, I’m angry.
It would be reasonable for Silver to tell us about his baseball models, which he does. It would be reasonable for him to tell us about political polling and how he uses weights on different polls to combine them to get a better overall poll. He does this as well. He also interviews a bunch of people who model in other fields, like meteorology and earthquake prediction, which is fine, albeit superficial.
What is not reasonable, however, is for Silver to claim to understand how the financial crisis was a result of a few inaccurate models, and how medical research need only switch from being frequentist to being Bayesian to become more accurate.
Let me give you some concrete examples from his book.
Easy First Example: Credit Rating Agencies
The ratings agencies, which famously put AAA ratings on terrible loans, and spoke among themselves as being willing to rate things that were structured by cows, did not accidentally have bad underlying models. The bankers packaging and selling these deals, which amongst themselves they called sacks of shit, did not blithely believe in their safety because of those ratings.
Rather, the entire industry crucially depended on the false models. Indeed they changed the data to conform with the models, which is to say it was an intentional combination of using flawed models and using irrelevant historical data (see points 64-69 here for more).
In baseball, a team can’t create bad or misleading data to game the models of other teams in order to get an edge. But in the financial markets, parties to a model can and do.
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Comments
Enlighten me please. He is wrong, when his predictions are extremely accurate? Willing to entertain all reasonable theses...
Posted by: Elatia Harris | Dec 21, 2012 10:35:18 PM
I'd say the argument is that while his specific predictions within particular domains are very accurate, his generalizations and meta-explanations of why he is right and how to fix bigger problems are not necessarily.
From the article:
"Silver confuses cause and effect. We didn’t have a financial crisis because of a bad model or a few bad models. We had bad models because of a corrupt and criminally fraudulent financial system...
Silver has an unswerving assumption, which he repeats several times, that the only goal of a modeler is to produce an accurate model. (Actually, he made an exception for stock analysts.)
This assumption generally holds in his experience: poker, baseball, and polling are all arenas in which one’s incentive is to be as accurate as possible. But he falls prey to some of the very mistakes he warns about in his book, namely over-confidence and over-generalization. He assumes that, since he’s an expert in those arenas, he can generalize to the field of finance, where he is not an expert."
Posted by: hjk | Dec 22, 2012 3:08:47 AM
@Elatia: he didn't predict anything about the financial crisis and it's shortsighted to think everything we call 'model' is the exact same kind of thing. They can be vastly different and consequently what Silver is doing is the equivalent of an astronomer claiming he also understands how to model the behavior of celebrity stars.
Posted by: Ivo | Dec 22, 2012 4:11:52 AM
Next election cycle I will go with Nate Silver again.
Only whiners who lost millions betting against Silver will go with the alchemists again.
Posted by: Dredd | Dec 22, 2012 11:05:15 AM
Brilliant article. Thanks for sharing
Posted by: Sundar | Dec 22, 2012 11:10:26 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-12-24/it%E2%80%99s-not-%E2%80%9Cfiscal-cliff%E2%80%9D-%E2%80%A6-it%E2%80%99s-descent-lawlessness
It’s Not a “Fiscal Cliff” … It’s the Descent Into Lawlessness
Posted by: glasgow | Dec 25, 2012 12:35:57 AM
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