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December 18, 2012

Salman Rushdie vs. Pankaj Mishra on Mo Yan

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First, Pankaj Mishra in the Guardian:

The possibility of friction with either the authoritarian state or non-state actors (political and religious extremists) often makes for a degree of self-censorship. At the same time, the need for obliqueness can also make the literary imagination more resourceful.

Such is the case with Mo Yan's deeply interesting fiction. His writing, however, has hardly been mentioned, let alone assessed, by his most severe western critics; it is his political choices for which he stands condemned. They are indeed deplorable, but do we ever expose the political preferences of Mo Yan's counterparts in the west to such harsh scrutiny?

In fact, we almost never judge British and American writers on their politics alone. It would seem absurd to us if the Somali, Yemeni or Pakistani victims of Barack Obama's drone assaults, miraculously empowered with a voice in the international arena, accused the US president's many literary fans of trying to put a human face on his unmanned killing machines; or if they denounced Ian McEwan, who once had tea with Laura Bush and Cherie Blair at 10 Downing Street, as a patsy for the Anglo-American nexus that is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and the displacement of millions more.

Nevertheless, they would not be wrong to detect an unexamined assumption lurking in the western scorn for Mo Yan's proximity to the Chinese regime: that Anglo-American writers, naturally possessed of loftier virtue, stand along with their governments on the right side of history. 

Rushdie responds, also in the Guardian:

Pankaj Mishra (Why Salman Rushdie should pause before condemning Mo Yan on censorship, Review, 15 December) makes a series of confused, dishonest and wrong-headed assertions. He misreads John Updike's "blue mailboxes" speech at the Pen congress of 1986. Updike was not talking selfishly about sending away his writing and receiving cheques in return. He was using the mailboxes as a metaphor of the easy, free exchange of ideas and information in an open society. One presumes Mishra is in favour of such a society.

He also misrepresents me. I have never made the claim that the Bush administration was resolved "to bring democracy through war in Afghanistan". I did say that, in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, the reprisal attack against the al-Qaida-Taliban axis was justifiable, not to "bring democracy", but to respond to an act of war. In Afghanistan a terrorist group had taken over the levers of a nation state and used that state as a base from which to attack the United States. For all I know, Mishra may feel that instead of fighting back, America should have apologized to al-Qaida for its foreign policy misdeeds and accepted that those killed in the Trade Centre towers deserved to die. I do not accuse him of that. Neither should he accuse me of what I did not say. 

But Mishra has stranger fish to fry. Not content with attacking Nabokov, Bellow, Updike, Martin Amis and myself for "selective humanism", he states: "Of course, violence and exploitation underpin all nation states, democratic or not." This – what shall I call it? – this satanic view of human society as invariably founded upon evil is his reason for proposing the existence of a moral equivalence between powerful democracies and powerful tyrannies, and between writers' responses to living in free and unfree societies.

Posted by Robin Varghese at 01:00 AM | Permalink

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Typo-alert in the title Robin.

"At the same time, the need for obliqueness can also make the literary imagination more resourceful."

The red retriever-haired satyr
Can whine and tease her and flatter,
But Lily O’Grady,
Silly and shady,
In the deep shade is a lazy lady;
Now Pompey’s dead, Homer’s read,
Heliogabalus lost his head,
And shade is on the brightest wing,
And dust forbids the bird to sing.

Gee there's a positive. The resourcefulness derived from implicitness is the upside of an author living under an authoritative regime? But don't despair, those writers in the west are equally constrained. Mishra needs to occasionally don another set of sunnies to go with the post-colonialist pair he constantly peers through.

Posted by: Troy | Dec 18, 2012 6:41:37 AM

" this satanic view of human society as invariably founded upon evil is his reason for proposing the existence of a moral equivalence between powerful democracies and powerful tyrannies, and between writers' responses to living in free and unfree societies."

Brilliant. Mishra exposed for the fraud that he is.

Posted by: Sundar | Dec 18, 2012 8:06:43 AM

Wow, Sir Salman sounds so pretentious and self-satisfied!

As far as I understand it, Mishra is saying that Mo Yan's political choice to NOT go against the Chinese state is not a crime and that writers like Updike and Rushdie didn't always protest the injustices perpetrated by their country. I don't think there's anything wrong with that argument. Writers should be judged on their writing and not on their politics. Sir Salman for example HATES Muslims and his politics are awful, but he's still a great novelist (or was before he started recycling himself and writing whatever he feels like knowing it will sell because its Rushdie).

Posted by: Kabir | Dec 18, 2012 8:32:21 AM

I don't always like Mishra but he knocked out Rushdie in the first round on this one. Let's face it, Salman Rushdie is jealous and resentful of anyone who gets a Nobel prize for literature whose name isn't Salman Rushdie. Mishra was quite right to point out the absurdity and hypocrisy of his rant against Mo Yan.

Posted by: big joe | Dec 18, 2012 8:47:17 AM

It's painful to say this, but it sure seems like Mishra is right and Rushdie is wrong :(

Posted by: prasad | Dec 18, 2012 9:04:19 AM

The first two paragraphs by Mishra referenced above are ludicrous.

"The possibility of friction with either the authoritarian state or non-state actors (political and religious extremists) often makes for a degree of self-censorship. At the same time, the need for obliqueness can also make the literary imagination more resourceful."

This is illogical for a liberal democrat. He argues that obliqueness is great for the resourceful literary author. Does he advocate for a non-democratic world of abstract poets?

And secondly.

"Such is the case with Mo Yan's deeply interesting fiction. His writing, however, has hardly been mentioned, let alone assessed, by his most severe western critics; it is his political choices for which he stands condemned. They are indeed deplorable, but do we ever expose the political preferences of Mo Yan's counterparts in the west to such harsh scrutiny?"

Mo Yan has no 'political choices' and his 'counterparts in the west' do have 'political preferences'!

"it is his political choices for which he stands condemned".

How can anyone rationally defend this statement?

Posted by: Troy | Dec 18, 2012 9:58:23 AM

I think the idea of defending Mo Yan from unfair attacks is a good one. There is no question that some (not all) of the attacks are just a cheap way to pretend to be deeply anti-authoritarian and get a good kick in against a soft target.
But Pankaj is absolutely the wrong person for the job. He just cannot resist the temptation to use everything he writes to "advance the cause". Its so bloody automatic, he probably doesnt notice it. But his fashionable but very loosely fact-based worldview is hovering too close to the foreground for comfort. And then he gets in a number of unfair digs of his own.
He also seems to want to admire Mo Yan and condemn him at the same time. Maybe because he cannot appear to support "compromisers" but also cannot attack someone who he thinks is being unfairly attacked.
The whole piece is a mess but one must admit that its perfectly crafted to massage the feelings and reflexes of fellow tribe-members, so I guess its OK. Another success.
Rushdie comeback is surprisingly weak. Well, maybe not surprisingly...he seems to have become rather lazy in his old age and insufficiently self-critical. A good dose of mandatory self-criticism of the kind the great helmsman dished out to everyone from ordinary cadres to Deng Hsiaoping might do him some good...stir the creative juices.

Posted by: omar | Dec 18, 2012 12:49:46 PM

> But his fashionable but very loosely
> fact-based worldview is hovering too
> close to the foreground for comfort.

I agree that loosely fact-based is a good description of Pankaj Mishra's political writings in general and it is surely a good desription of this piece as well. But what does loosely fact based really mean? Either a piece of evidence is true and is a fact, or it is not and is therefore not.

Here are five 'loosely fact-based' headlines, one for each day of the week, for Pankaj Mishra to write articles about. Over Christmas week.

* (M)ovies from Hollywood glorify violence and are complicit in war crimes against the Iraqi people.
* (T)he game of chess is about implicit violence against women and minorities
* (W)hen George W. Bush yawns, he increases global warming due to the possibility that the yawn is a sign of boredom vis-a-vis science-based analysis
* (T)he threat from Iran's nuclear weapons program is not as great as that from
Joe Biden's grin.
* (F)ront and center in the war against AIDS is the water discovered on Mars.

Posted by: Anand Manikutty | Dec 18, 2012 11:09:38 PM

Sorry, but is Mishra's claim that "violence and exploitation underpin all nation states" all that controversial?

If we read it as a historical claim, we have a view that was taken for granted by many towering enlightenment figures and their successors. Hume, for example, wrote, "Almost all the governments which exist at present, or of which there remains any record in story, have been founded originally, either on usurpation or conquest, or both, without any presence of a fair consent or voluntary subjection of the people." Taken sociologically, we have Weber's now more-or-less standard view that the state's defining feature is a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence within a circumscribed territory, a position which every undergraduate student of political science must reckon with at some point.

Moreover, can it seriously be denied tout court? How many contemporary societies were not born from war and other yet more ghastly forms of violence? How many maintain order and discipline by means entirely devoid of force and coercion?

Posted by: Will | Dec 19, 2012 8:45:19 PM

Good post. Sir Rushdie trying to demonize his opponent and indulging in plain demagoguery. Seems like anything or anybody he dislikes he calls "Satanic". He sounds like a right wing religious fundamentalist himself. Pankaj is his usual brilliant self.

Posted by: Raza Husain | Dec 19, 2012 9:42:38 PM

IF the claim is that acts of organized violence can be found in the history of all nation states then it is true in the trivial sense that all of recorded human history is also a story of organized and unorganized violence. Its a "trivial" claim because it means very little. Why stop at nation states? You and I are also products of violence and exploitation if we are willing to go far enough out or define things this way rather than that at some crucial points in the story we make up (and maybe not even that).
IF the claim is that these states exist and function because some hidden violence and systematic exploitation "underpin" them then you are in more difficult territory. Not because violence and exploitatin will be impossible to find but because his particular claims about the violence and the exploitation include too many unproven assertions, cherrypicked facts, out-of-context quotes, false equivalences and shady connections.
that is itself a bald assertion, not a serious case. But bits and pieces of the case will be presented and have been presented by many people, most far better informed than me (or Pankaj).

Many powerful modern states are an improvement over past human attempts at regulating human violence. But NOT necessarily over past human attempts at human happiness. Why this unhappiness in the face of plenty? and what is to be done about it? I think these are serious questions. I dont really have answers to most of them, and perhaps there IS no one story to knit the answers together.
But lets ask a simpler question:
What incredible series of accidents rescued Pankaj from "false consciousness"?
We can start from there..
hain khwab mein hunooz jo jaagey hain khwab mein (those who awaken in a dream, are still dreaming).
Of course, that applies to me and you as much as to Pankaj. Or a little more. Or a little less. This argument can go on.

Posted by: omar | Dec 19, 2012 11:07:20 PM

In no way is Mishra's statement controversial, just sloppy and lazy. It's a sloppy device to equivocate the measure of violence and exploitation employed by any given state, whether they be democratic or authoritarian. It's a struggle to equate the political, civic and social freedoms in the US with China or any other non-democratic state. Especially for famous authors, even if they are fictional writers. And Mo Yan as well. All states are underpinned with the need for authority and the requirement to prevent anarchy, but there are many shades of grey and many lenses from which to approach the argument.

Hume's statement needs to be taken in context, as a philosopher besieged by the 18C Scottish civil war and growing up in the shadows of the Jacobite risings. Samuel Johnson labelled him a product of Hobbes. Also, I'm not sure if the legit use of violence is intended to stretch to explain the comparison in how states choose to wield their use of violence. Murky waters. No states maintain order and discipline by means entirely devoid of force and coercion but that does not mean we cannot derive comparisons from assessing the amount of force and the way in which states choose to wield it.

And I cannot get over the lazy and exploitative way Mishra builds his argument via Mo Yan, with his sights fixed through his telescope. Mishra tells us that "it is his political choices for which he stands condemned. They are indeed deplorable". With friends like Mishra (and no political choice) who needs enemies?

Posted by: Troy | Dec 20, 2012 10:10:15 AM

I wrote this elsewhere and the audience here may find this too harsh, but its relevant to this discussion:
I was thinking of why I react so much to Pankaj these days and I have concluded that its first and foremost because i think he writes in bad faith…and that is irritating because he is obviously an intelligent man, he could do better.
But every time he writes, he seems to go digging through his library to find snippets that will be red meat for his (limited, but prosperous and loyal) Western/westernized upper-class leftie audience. Yes, he makes his audience happy with his anti-imperialist anti-colonial fluff, but all he is doing is confirming their existing prejudices and fashionable ideas. Where is the added value in that?
Its “Fluff” in the sense that its extremely lazy and superficial work…anyone with an average IQ could do it in his sleep…one can probably design a computer program that writes his articles….of course one can do the same for any right wing propagandist, but thats the point; why is he operating at the level of a low grade propagandist?
Since time and cognitive resources are limited, BS SHOULD make us irritated.

Posted by: omar | Dec 20, 2012 10:49:10 AM

Merry Xmas Omar and may Mishra put a cap on his monocle and be silent throughout the festive season.

Posted by: Troy | Dec 20, 2012 11:00:33 AM

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