November 07, 2012
Hillary Clinton vs Chris Christie: The race for the White House in 2016
From New Statesman:
The 2012 presidential election is over; let the 2016 election begin! Without skipping a beat, the endless electoral process in the US has started over. It is the American equivalent of: “The king is dead. Long live the king.” It is why political junkies across the world love American politics. It never ends. So what do we know about the next race? With Barack Obama still in the White House and unable to run again due to term limits, both parties are looking for a new candidate. In the Republican Party, it used to be that if you didn’t win the presidency one year, you could put yourself forward the next. Richard Nixon lost to John F Kennedy in 1960 but bounced back in 1968 to beat Hubert Humphrey. Now voters are so fickle and campaigns so punishing that you only get one shot. Americans don’t like losers and the electoral battlefield is strewn with the corpses of failed presidential candidates who overnight became unpersons. So bye-bye, Mitt. Missing you already. As F Scott Fitzgerald observed, there are no second acts in American lives.
Yet politicians who merely fail to win their party’s nomination can keep plugging away. Hillary Clinton was beaten to the punch by Obama in 2008 but is expected to run in 2016. That explains why Bill Clinton has been going hoarse urging voters to back Obama. With Romney in the White House, Hillary would find it hard to unseat him. So, she needed Romney to lose and there was no better way to ensure that than to set her husband on to him. Having loyally served Obama as secretary of state, Hillary expects the president to repay the compliment and back her bid. The general view among Democrats is that if Hillary wants the nomination, it’s hers. They feel that her impeccable performance as senator for New York, then at the state department, has repaired the reputation for divisiveness and aggression that she acquired when she was first lady. She will be 69 in 2016.
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Just don't forget Joe, he may not be bright or charismatic, but he's got his own agenda...
Posted by: Félix E. F. Larocca, MD | Nov 7, 2012 10:34:20 PM
God help us! Can anyone name one intelligent thing H.Clinton has ever said? Extra points if it wasn't a lie.
And I know this shouldn't matter, but the woman is rich as Croesus and has never had a decent haircut in her life.
Posted by: Alice de Tocqueville | Nov 8, 2012 12:43:27 AM
@Alice - For a start...
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/16/us/politics/16clinton.html?_r=0
Posted by: addicted | Nov 8, 2012 1:21:40 AM
In the photo, Hillary looks much as Il Duce. Just a trivial observation fom my Italian heritage.
Posted by: Félix E. F. Larocca, MD | Nov 8, 2012 11:56:14 AM
Ya Habibi!
The ink not fully dry after the election. and the media is after the battle for White House in 2016.
HC as secretary of state is certainly better than the deceitful Condoleezza Rice who unquestioningly served the warmongering Bush-Cheney team. And she might make a better president than Obama, the messenger of hope and change who failed to deliver.However, let's hope that a fresh, new face will emerge who will be different -- honest, if our corrupt system permits such a candidate on the national stage.
Posted by: waqnis | Nov 8, 2012 2:22:38 PM
I am interested to see that there are those still enthusiastic for a politician who, while in the Senate, voted for both the authorization for use of force against Iraq and for the Patriot Act, and served as Secretary of State for an administration that unabashedly engages in drone strikes and reserves the right to kill US citizens (and their children) abroad without any kind of due process.
Posted by: Corner Cubicle | Nov 8, 2012 2:51:01 PM
Christie is entirely too moderate for the base. His respectful treatment of Obama will never be forgiven.
I don't see the GOP coming back down to earth anytime soon. God knows they'd be a formidable foe if they gave Grover Norquist his walking papers and threw the Xtian Right under the bus. This just won't happen. The unevolved are simply going to have to die out. That's how evolution works.
And never underestimate a Clinton. Just don't.
Posted by: Ray Butlers | Nov 9, 2012 2:17:55 PM
H.Clinton got a cut of the payoff for the Marc Rich pardon.
And, thanks to Wikileaks, we know that she lied about the Honduran coup.(Anyone remember that?) State Dept lawyers were on record that it was, indeed, a military coup, and therefore she illegally continued funds to the brutal thugs who took over. Who have still not finished murdering everyone who opposes them. Annd (sic) Obama's ex-puppydog Gibbs called The Open Veins of Latin America a fiction.
I could go on..
And I notice my challenge goes unanswered.
Posted by: Alice de Tocqueville | Nov 10, 2012 7:16:31 PM
The first woman ever to become the official nominee will get an unendurable pounding, one that won't let up. For that reason, I was opposed to HRC winning the nomination in 2008. I believed then, and believe now, that her lies went beyond the obligatory politician lies into territory that would -- and should -- make her vulnerable to disqualifying exposures. It will have to be some woman that can't happen to, Elizabeth Warren for instance. A woman so compromised by her own power-seeking as to be pretty dirty is not the one. Real gender parity will be here when a woman and a man are equally likely to survive that kind of scrutiny. I give HRC her due as a very smart person, Alice -- but it's not enough.
Posted by: Elatia Harris | Nov 10, 2012 7:34:58 PM
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