July 13, 2012
Spoiled Rotten: Why do kids rule the roost?
From The New Yorker:
In 2004, Carolina Izquierdo, an anthropologist at the University of California, Los Angeles, spent several months with the Matsigenka, a tribe of about twelve thousand people who live in the Peruvian Amazon. The Matsigenka hunt for monkeys and parrots, grow yucca and bananas, and build houses that they roof with the leaves of a particular kind of palm tree, known as a kapashi. At one point, Izquierdo decided to accompany a local family on a leaf-gathering expedition down the Urubamba River. A member of another family, Yanira, asked if she could come along. Izquierdo and the others spent five days on the river. Although Yanira had no clear role in the group, she quickly found ways to make herself useful. Twice a day, she swept the sand off the sleeping mats, and she helped stack the kapashi leaves for transport back to the village. In the evening, she fished for crustaceans, which she cleaned, boiled, and served to the others. Calm and self-possessed, Yanira “asked for nothing,” Izquierdo later recalled. The girl’s behavior made a strong impression on the anthropologist because at the time of the trip Yanira was just six years old. While Izquierdo was doing field work among the Matsigenka, she was also involved in an anthropological study closer to home. A colleague of hers, Elinor Ochs, had recruited thirty-two middle-class families for a study of life in twenty-first-century Los Angeles. Ochs had arranged to have the families filmed as they ate, fought, made up, and did the dishes.
Izquierdo and Ochs shared an interest in many ethnographic issues, including child rearing. How did parents in different cultures train young people to assume adult responsibilities? In the case of the Angelenos, they mostly didn’t. In the L.A. families observed, no child routinely performed household chores without being instructed to. Often, the kids had to be begged to attempt the simplest tasks; often, they still refused. In one fairly typical encounter, a father asked his eight-year-old son five times to please go take a bath or a shower. After the fifth plea went unheeded, the father picked the boy up and carried him into the bathroom. A few minutes later, the kid, still unwashed, wandered into another room to play a video game. In another representative encounter, an eight-year-old girl sat down at the dining table. Finding that no silverware had been laid out for her, she demanded, “How am I supposed to eat?” Although the girl clearly knew where the silverware was kept, her father got up to get it for her. In a third episode captured on tape, a boy named Ben was supposed to leave the house with his parents. But he couldn’t get his feet into his sneakers, because the laces were tied. He handed one of the shoes to his father: “Untie it!” His father suggested that he ask nicely. “Can you untie it?” Ben replied. After more back-and-forth, his father untied Ben’s sneakers. Ben put them on, then asked his father to retie them. “You tie your shoes and let’s go,’’ his father finally exploded. Ben was unfazed. “I’m just asking,’’ he said.
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Are there actually people that dispute that American children are the most indulged children? Just take a quick look at your kid’s bedroom. When you have everything, you’re not grateful for anything. It’s clear there is something wrong with our generation of parenting and I examine why this breeds a crew of spoiled brats here:
http://www.themommypsychologist.com/2012/06/27/american-children-are-spoiled-brats/
Posted by: The Mommy Psychologist | Jul 13, 2012 12:46:38 PM
And then there are the victims of abuse of one kind or another..... and the 40% who live in poverty. "Spoiled rotten" may be an upper middle class issue.
Posted by: Larry | Jul 13, 2012 3:55:15 PM
Disappointingly blah ending to what promised to be an interesting article. But perhaps that's because Elizabeth Kolbert is one of the problematic parents herself -- cleaning up after her kid's mistakes when he "helped" her rather than making him clean it up himself -- so doesn't have enough perspective. Turning this into a question of whether super-prolonged adolescence might be a good thing, and the lame humor of the final paragraph, completely sidestep the point.
Posted by: Sarah D. | Jul 13, 2012 4:06:42 PM
Not all parents raise their kids in crazy-making ways.
http://www.lifemedia.ca/altpress/For_the_Sake_of_Our_Children.htm
Posted by: Louise Gordon | Jul 13, 2012 4:10:38 PM
before we get started here, can I get a show of hands? How many 3qd denizens have actually caught and released children?
Posted by: Carlos | Jul 13, 2012 8:16:07 PM
‘Spare the rod and spoil the child’
King James Version of the Bible, Book of Proverbs, 13:24
Or, in this case is:
Spare the child and spoil the rod?
Who knows?
Much ado about nothing, if you ask me…
Posted by: Félix E. F. Larocca, MD | Jul 13, 2012 10:33:40 PM
http://www.thehittingstopshere.com/
Posted by: Louise Gordon | Jul 14, 2012 12:20:56 AM
Caught and released? You mean how many have raised kids? Well, I second the conclusion that spoiling is bad and that kids should be expected to help in chores from an early age. The most effective punishment was sending them out to stand in the corridor (we lived in a block of flats) for about 15 seconds.
Posted by: aguy109 | Jul 14, 2012 2:50:33 AM
I think responsibility and autonomy are deeply related, and it looks like the 6yo Matsigenka girl gets to choose how and where to spend her days, such as whether to come on a river trip. American kids have their time planned for them between home and school and holidays and so on, they don't get to choose where to go so they don't have much reason to be invested in it.
Can you imagine an American kid on a river trip of any kind? They wouldn't lift a finger to do anything; instead they'd grumble about every little inconvenience and about how they wanted to be back home instead. Which would be fair, because it would always be adults who'd made the decision to go for them. It wouldn't "build character" either; that happens when one takes ownership of one's choice to do something, which obviously requires actually having the choice, and better if it's one's own idea.
Posted by: Sagredo | Jul 14, 2012 7:00:07 AM
Kids are one problem. When they become adults, it's everyone else's problem. My Millenial employees are spoiled brats who call their lawyers when I tell them to do their jobs. Yes, I blame their parents for raising self-absorbed, thoughtless, insensitive, helpless, pill-popping slugs.
Posted by: Ray Butlers | Jul 15, 2012 1:47:02 PM
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