February 10, 2012
Who Needs God?
Kenan Malik over at his blog (h/t: Zack Beauchamp over at Andrew Sullivan):
The difference between believers and atheists is not about whether either can explain the ultimate cause of the universe. It is about how we wish to explain it. I am happy to say, ‘I do not know what First Cause is, or even if there is one. It may be that one day we discover the answer to that. Or it may be that we never will. For now I am happy to keep an open mind, accept our ignorance of First Cause and live with the uncertainty of not having one’. Believers are unwilling to say that. They insist that there must be a First Cause and that that First Cause must take the form of God. They cannot live with the uncertainty about First Cause that comes with non-belief. In Peter Stannard’s words they know – they have to know – that God exists. The difference between believers and atheists is, in other words, not simply a difference of philosophy, it is also a difference of psychological temper.
A similar distinction can be drawn between atheists and believers with respect to the second issue for which it is claimed that God is necessary – morality. ‘If God does not exist, everything is permitted’. Dostoevsky never actually wrote that line, though so often is it attributed to him that he may as well have. It has become the almost reflexive response of believers when faced with an argument for a godless world. Without religious faith, runs the argument, we cannot anchor our moral truths or truly know right from wrong. Without belief in God we will be lost in a miasma of moral nihilism. ‘The elimination of God’, the theologian Alister McGrath writes, ‘led to new heights of moral brutality’. Though given the extent of brutality undertaken in the name of God, I am not sure that that is a particularly astute sentiment.
‘If God does not exist’, William Craig claims, ‘Objective moral values and duties do not exist’. There is a voluminous philosophical literature on the debate between moral realists and moral anti-realists, that is between those who see moral values as akin to facts, and those who reject that idea. It is an intellectual swamp, and one into which I do not intend stepping, at least in this talk. All I would say is it is possible to believe that moral questions have non-arbitrary answers without conflating facts and values.
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Comments
"What happened *before* the Universe existed" is meaningless, since time is a dimension within the Universe and not something external which can be taken as a reference point for questions about the Universe. It is like asking "*Where* does the Universe exist". Similarly, it can be argued that to ask what was there before God or who created God or where is God is meaningless since the *concept* of God encompasses the Universe as its creator
Just like a place (space) is not something that only comes into existence when you get there, the Future (Time) is not something waiting to happen. Space-time and all events in the future, present or past exist as one entity, much like a movie on a CD or a story in a book. This CD or book was created in a *single event which occurred instantly or was always there* and nothing ever happened or needed to happen again.
The argument about first cause vs. something that always existed is flawed because it is semantical and one could take either as a matter of convention.
Posted by: Raza | Feb 10, 2012 9:31:03 PM
The great theological controversy reduces to a kind of Hegelian dialectic. The notion of God is without limit and in its highest form can only be expressed apophatically, which is exactly what happens when we start to think about nothing.
Posted by: Thomas | Feb 11, 2012 2:47:28 AM
Kant said that "God is beyond categories."
Science shows us that we don't need to invoke God to explain the universe and we don't need God to be good. Opinions on the subject vary, of course, but I'm wary of the true believers who offer their opinions as facts.
Posted by: HowBow | Feb 11, 2012 10:45:55 AM
For the religious reich to admit that "god did it" is not the answer for everything they do not understand, which literally is everything, would undermine their control of the gullible masses they depend upon to feed their insatiable greed for power and possessions.
Posted by: James Smith | Nov 26, 2012 10:03:27 AM
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