January 28, 2012
Is it Time for Science to Move on from Materialism, or the Return of Rupert Sheldrake
Predictably, I think the answer is a clear no, but Mark Vernon makes the case in the Guardian:
Of materialism, [Werner Heisenberg] wrote:
"[This] frame was so narrow and rigid that it was difficult to find a place in it for many concepts of our language that had always belonged to its very substance, for instance, the concept of mind, of the human soul or of life. Mind could be introduced into the general picture only as a kind of mirror of the material world."
Today we live in the 21st century, and it seems that we are still stuck with this narrow and rigid view of the things. As Rupert Sheldrake puts it in his new book, published this week, The Science Delusion: "The belief system that governs conventional scientific thinking is an act of faith, grounded in a 19th-century ideology."
That's provocative rhetoric. Science an act of faith? Science a belief system? But then how else to explain the grip of the mechanistic, physicalist, purposeless cosmology? As Heisenberg explained, physicists among themselves have long stopped thinking of atoms as things. They exist as potentialities or possibilities, not objects or facts. And yet, materialism persists.
Heisenberg recommended staying in touch with reality as we experience it, which is to say holding a place for conceptions of mind and soul. The mechanistic view will pass, he was certain. In a way, Sheldrake's scientific career has been devoted to its overthrow. He began in a mainstream post as director of studies in cell biology at Cambridge University, though he challenged the orthodoxy when he proposed his theory of morphogenetic fields.
This is designed to account for, say, the enormously complex structure of proteins. A conventional approach, which might be described as bottom-up, has protein molecules "exploring" all possible patterns until settling on one with a minimum energy. This explanation works well for simple molecules, like carbon dioxide. However, proteins are large and complicated. As Sheldrake notes: "It would take a small protein about 10^26 years to do this, far longer than the age of the universe."
As a result, some scientists are proposing top-down, holistic explanations. Sheldrake's particular proposal is that such self-organising systems exist in fields of memory or habit.
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Comments
The comments on that article pretty much clarify/answer all you want answered. I suddenly increased my prior probability of Guardian reader's intelligence several notches.
Unfortunately, the prior probability of Guardian reviewers remains unchanged..
Note that I am not so much anti-Sheldrake as anti-reviewer here. Sheldrake is not a bad egg. He went to India and became enlightened. That must count as a plus (JBS Haldane is my all time favorite "go to India" scientist because he did so quite rationally and was remarkably enlightened in his opinions, but that is another story).
For some reason I also have a vague notion that Ganja was involved in Sheldrake's conversion, but I could be wrong. If it was, it too is a good thing. Turn on and tune in are probably good ideas and I dont much object to dropping out as long as you remain OK with all aspects of the deal. Its the inane review that slightly bothers me.
Posted by: omar | Jan 28, 2012 6:43:51 PM
Since science can't explain THIS, it must be THIS.
Sheldrake is no threat to the scientific method. He is a poster boy for fallacious argument.
Posted by: beajerry | Jan 28, 2012 7:33:25 PM
In an infinite Universe the only thing we know for sure is that we can never know everything. Science and Religion both claim to know everything and both are delusional.
Posted by: Raza | Jan 28, 2012 11:25:38 PM
Interesting. Where does science claim to know everything?
For that matter, where does religion? which religion?
Posted by: omar | Jan 29, 2012 1:34:32 AM
Omar, In Science, don’t we have the "Laws" of Physics, including that they are the same everywhere in the Universe. Don't we have Axioms (self evident unproven truths) which are the foundations of Mathematics? Anytime one makes a positive statement about what is or is not universally, which can never be proven for the entire universe obviously, is making a statement of belief rather than fact.
In Islam, isn't Allah supposed to know everything which he has revealed through the Prophet and the Holy Book.
Posted by: Raza | Jan 29, 2012 2:55:20 AM
To this end we must embrace every crackpot? And what does Vernon mean by the materialist world view? If it is the view that beliefs must be justified, I'm not sure that's what Heisenberg was rejecting.Posted by: Ken Pidcock | Jan 29, 2012 10:21:17 AM
Raza, that the laws of physics apply everywhere is a hypothesis that then generates predictions, all of which (till now) have proven correct (I will wait for some physicist to fill in details about places where the physicists themselves claim that this or that "law" doesnt apply). Most people are then very confident that the hypothesis is true, but in principle, it could still be wrong, just in ways we have not yet anticipated or found. The laws themselves are also tentative in the same way. There are some about which our confidence is very very high, but in principle they could be altered as new information and insights come into play. They may also be rewritten and reworded as our models of reality are adjusted (meaning, in this case, that they are not being rejected or altered, just being expressed in a different way that now seems more meaningful and useful), etc etc.
More to the point, there is no claim about "knowing everything". Just about knowing THIS thing and hoping to know more.
In most ancient religions there doesnt seem to be a well developed notion of an omniscient god. In some more recent ones such a notion does indeed exist, but its a claim about a rather mysterious entity called God, not a claim that "the religion" somehow "knows everything". What would that even mean? Islam, for example, is not one person, but even if she were, in what sense does this person "know everything"? You may say that this person claims to have a relationship with another entity (god) who does know everything, but since said person doesnt claim to know everything herself, we can still say that no religion "knows everything".
Of course, I agree that this is a pointless discussion. Who cares what someone claims on behalf of this or that abstract entity. There are many more claims about these entities that have a direct impact on our lives; whether they claim to know everything or not and whether that claim could in any way be true is pretty far removed from what actually happens everyday in billions of lives..
Posted by: omar | Jan 29, 2012 11:51:32 AM
This is just stupid.
Science in itself is NOT an attempt to answer any and every question. It is an attempt to apply a constrained set of practices and processes to gain more knowledge. The only thing that makes Science "special" is the stupendous success it has had. In the past we have had other systems of study, including alchemy, mysticism, mythology, etc.
If you want to include non-materialism, feel free to do so. Just dont call it science. Let the 2 methods of study coexists, and their success in improving the world, and teaching us more about its workings will determine which one survives.
@Raza - I have not much to add to the previous comments, other than emphasizing that the usage of the word "Law" does not imply half the certainty in science, as we are taught it does in school. A classic example is "Newton's Laws of motion" which scientists KNOW is at best an approximation, but they are still called laws, and still used, because of their overwhelming effectiveness in a certain domain of problems. Similarly, axioms are indeed considered "self-evident" but ONLY within the domain in which they are being used. They are not considered to be universally self-evident or true. So, mathematical axioms are self-evident and absolutely "true" only because of the constraints that define the system of mathematics.
Posted by: addicted | Jan 29, 2012 12:53:49 PM
"...ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science."
- Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man (1871), Introduction
Posted by: FrankZ | Jan 29, 2012 1:45:10 PM
As I said, the comments on the original review (in the Guardian) pretty much take care of all these questions..
Posted by: omar | Jan 29, 2012 5:06:37 PM
Odd that both the Sheldrake article in the Guardian and the adjacent (in 3QD) NYT article about fast mutations in viruses both have appended corrections vastly reducing the probability of certain observed events.
Is this just a coincidence or is there an intrinsic resistance among many of us to confronting the issue of highly unlikely self-organisation?
Posted by: Bedrich | Jan 29, 2012 6:04:59 PM
Science in itself is NOT an attempt to answer any and every question". So what are the Grand Unification Theory and the Theory of Everything attempting to do? And Yes, I am also talking about the material world and not the non-material world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything
To believe that Science or Religion can ever explain everything about an infinite universe is as delusional as believing that man is at the center of the universe.
Posted by: Raza | Jan 29, 2012 11:08:56 PM
@Raza ... 'Everything' itself is a concept, a definition...and so is the 'Universe'...
The difference is that Science acknowledges this and allows for a continual amendment of the two concepts...while Religion presupposes both and then sets them as absolute...
@Omar - Sheldrake should read some Kuhn...then it will all make sense and he can stop torturing himself (and the readers of his books' reviews) with recycling ideas that were kicking around 80 years ago ;)
S.
Posted by: Sid | Jan 30, 2012 12:11:21 AM
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