April 18, 2011
Of Quislings and Science: Reflecting on Mark Vernon, The Templeton Prize and Richard Dawkins
by Tauriq Moosa
Recently, Sir Martin Rees was awarded the most lucrative science-prize in the world, The Templeton Prize. Notice I said ‘lucrative’; not most respected or prestigious, though some indeed do think it is. This prize is awarded because it, according to its official website, “honors a living person who has made an exceptional contribution to affirming life’s spiritual dimension, whether through insight, discovery, or practical works.” It is given to those “who have devoted their talents to expanding our vision of human purpose and ultimate reality” – a sentence worthy of a tacky Hallmark card.
Sir Martin is in the company of £1,000,000 sterling and Mother Theresa and Billy Graham. Indeed, I wonder if that amount is enough to sway anyone, so that he or she is mentioned in the same breath as these fanatics. The point being there is little that is, by definition, about science. The Templeton Foundation and Prize is about promoting notions of the Divine, in whatever loose language you can fathom, using something vaguely non-Divine in approach. If you can anchor your pursuits that effect the world, dealing with sick people (not aiding) like Mother Theresa, or probing the mysteries of the universe with an appreciation for its beauty or possible higher purpose, then you qualify. They’ve melted the solid idea of the theistic god down into liquid form, so it slips through any pretention even when the person awarded the prize is not religious. Like Sir Martin Rees.
If Sir Martin donates it all to Oxfam, I would have little to quarrel with it suppose, except I think any scientist who doesn’t think there’s a conflict between faith and reason or science and religion is wrong. But that’s another discussion. What interests me about this whole episode was not the prize itself but the views that arose concerning the atheist culture wars. I’m interested particularly in ex-Anglican-priest-turned-“agnostic” Mark Vernon’s ever-banal criticisms of Richard Dawkins, as seen here (an ad hominem attack), here (how Dawkins is doing nothing new even though Vernon keeps writing about him), here (when Dawkins praises fellow writer, Christopher Hitchens, Dawkins is promoting hatred), here (Dawkins… groupthink… bus… bad), here (I don’t even know).
I rather enjoyed Dr Vernon’s books 42 and Plato’s Podcasts, so it is disappointing to see this usually clear, clever writer putting on the same performance each time Dawkins is mentioned in an online discussion or in the media. This is especially so when Vernon reflects on Sir Martin’s recent prize and… Richard Dawkins’ stridency. Yes. You obviously made that connection as quickly as I did. Vernon, expert bar none on how Dawkins should conduct himself publicly, has to write something… and it might as well be as Dawkins’ media nanny.
What is remarkable is Vernon’s ability to pull bones from the Rees story to create some fossil of an argument about Dawkins’ stridency. He does this by reflecting on Dawkins’ calling Rees, then head of the Royal Society, a “compliant Quisling” when it came to hosting the Templeton Foundation in the UK. As if uncovering a museum piece, Vernon unveils his newfound argument in the short space allotted him in the Guardian. But at the end, it’s as though we were expecting to discover a newly discovered species (of argument) but were given merely two broken teeth from a creature we’ve all dealt with before.
What’s more disappointing is the teeth barely draw any blood.
Firstly, why is it necessary to raise Dawkins’ past comment, now nearly a year old? Dawkins’ comment was about Rees and Templeton, so Vernon says it appears as “Rees has seemingly hit back”. This, however, makes no sense since Sir Martin did not choose to give himself the prize. It was, um, awarded to him. Maybe we can say he “hit back” by accepting it. But not everyone’s life revolves around Richard Dawkins enough to accept a million-pound prize just to spite the brilliant biologist.
Secondly, Vernon claims that Dawkins was wrong to call Rees a “Quisling”. Such rhetoric (finger wave) will not do! “Quisling”, says Vernon, was “hurled” against fascist collaborators during the Second World War; what was Rees collaborating with by agreeing for the Royal Society to host the Templeton Foundation? Says Vernon: “The Royal Society lent its prestige to the Templeton Foundation by hosting events sponsored by the fund, which supports a variety of projects investigating the science of wellbeing and faith.”
Hm. The science of what? Wellbeing… sure. Kind of. I would just put that down to either health or morality. But faith? Should the Royal Society also sponsor the Aries Rising Druids Society to investigate “the science” of astrology? Or perhaps Darkmoon Bloodstar’s “science” of magic? The point is: It’s not science, so why involve the Royal Society? Remember, the award is not restricted to scientists – though it seems, politically, this is a powerful avenue for the Foundation to push for in order to gain some credence. After all it is the major area fast destroying any pretentions toward knowing what you can’t possibly know.
Vernon I think is using “science” incorrectly when saying “science of… faith”. (I also doubt he means investigating religious belief from a psychological or neuroscientific perspective. If he did, he could’ve said it as I have. If this is what he means, I apologise.) For someone who spends so much time talking about Dawkins, even wanting to subject the poor biologist to unfalsifiable assertions to do with human behaviour based on ancient mythology (no, not astrology – I’m talking about Freudian psychotherapy), Mark Vernon has not read enough Dawkins. Consider this irritating paragraph:
Dawkins and Rees differ markedly on the tone with which the debate between science and religion should be conducted. Dawkins devotes his talents and resources to challenging, questioning and mocking faith. Rees, on the other hand, though an atheist, values the legacy sustained by the church and other faith traditions. He confesses a liking for choral evensong in the chapel of Trinity College. It seems a modest indulgence. The ethereal voices of rehearsing choristers can literally be heard from his front door. But for Dawkins this makes the man a "fervent believer in belief". And that is a foul betrayal of science.
Notice it has nothing to do with whether god exists or not, whether there is a purpose to our lives, etc. It’s got to do with Dawkins and Rees’ public image and personal habits. We’ll forget that Dawkins regularly speaks on aesthetic appreciation with some other unfeeling, cold, nihilist atheistic scientists (well, according to Vernon’s judgement).
Dawkins spends much time in The God Delusion discussing his appreciation for beauty in the world, even in choral music. Indeed there are several pages where he quotes his appreciation of the Bible as an important work of literature. Anyone can appreciate the beauty of Gothic architecture and the intricacy and brilliance of cathedrals. This does not make anyone “a believer in belief”. Again, like his use of "science", Vernon does not understand the terms he is using.
The term is from Daniel Dennett’s Breaking the Spell. Writing in the Guardian (of all places!), Dennett explains what belief in belief is. “Sometimes the maintenance of a belief is deemed so important that impressive systems of propaganda are erected and vigorously defended by people who do not in fact share the belief that they think is so important for society to endorse.” Vernon does not himself believe in god but thinks it is important, like Rees, to appreciate that others believe in god. Call it belief squared. (I think “belief in belief” is a catchy but is somewhat obscuring phrase. It doesn't quite capture what Dennett means - or, again, maybe I'm just slow.) Dennett continues:
Today one of the most insistent forces arrayed in opposition to us vocal atheists is the "I'm an atheist but" crowd, who publicly deplore our "hostility", our "rudeness" (which is actually just candour), while privately admitting that we're right. They don't themselves believe in God, but they certainly do believe in belief in God.
He appears to be telling us about Mark Vernon. But, with regard to appreciating that others believe in god, Sir Martin does fit this. So, he is a believer in belief but not because he appreciates choral music and evensong. Vernon has given us the right conclusion but using the wrong premises. Rees qualifies as a “believer in belief” because he:
also claims to be an "unbelieving Anglican" who goes to church "out of loyalty to the tribe". He has criticised Stephen Hawking for arguing that we don't need God to explain the origin of the universe, and supports "peaceful co-existence between religion and science because they concern different domains".
This appreciation or respect for religion because others are religious, however, is exactly what Dawkins was correctly criticising as policy for the Royal Society. Similarly – and again – we must ask for consistency. Would we support those who believed in alchemy as a solution for cures? Would we be happy to say homeopathic parents should not be charged for manslaughter when they implicitly kill their children? These beliefs, like religious faith, also are unwarranted, unsound and have no evidence to support them – they, too have plenty of believers. We do not expect physicians to have an appreciative attitude toward homeopaths, when both are focused on the same area. Why then should a cosmologist have an appreciation toward theologians, also focused on the same area?
No doubt many will claim they are separate spheres, but this is not true. If they are separate spheres, religious institutions wouldn’t be trying to get evolution out of schools; we wouldn’t be having hysteria over pushing the time back as to the birth of the universe. If religion and science were different spheres, I don’t think I would be fighting tooth and nail in my thesis to have policies on the ethics of killing re-considered. If these are separate domains, it is not the scientists up in arms but the faithful. Basically, this discussion wouldn’t need to happen. What can cosmology possibly gain from engaging with Leviticus or Paul’s Letters? What can the Quran contribute to our learning about biology?
Vernon however will have none of this. Respect is needed. Indeed, Vernon proudly proclaims himself as a benefactor of Templeton funding. He calls himself an accommodationist. “I often write about the relationship between science and religion, and have been a Templeton-Cambridge Journalism Fellow, the beneficiary of a first-rate seminar programme organised by Cambridge academics, funded by the Templeton Foundation. But then I love the big questions.”
Right. The big questions. I have and do read some wonderful Christian writers on “the big questions”, like Alasdair MacIntyre, a contemporary moral philosopher who follows Thomas Aquinas very closely. I am currently obtaining a bibliography for my thesis that includes many works, including analyses of Aquinas’ Summa and the positions of the Catholic Church regarding assisted-death. My main reason is not through respect of the God-Did-It formula (explain anything: science, morality and so on, by throwing god somewhere in to your explanation); rather, my reason is out of appreciating the power the formula holds, especially with regard to swaying public policy and opinion on my research area, which is killing and death. I need to know it, inside-and-out so that I can combat it effectively. This means I can engage sociably, amicably and vaguely intellectually (I still don’t understand most of philosophy, because I’m unfortunately not smart enough) without being smug, arrogant and so on. I can do this in my writing and I do it with my opponents.
Why mention “I love the big questions” by associating it with Templeton God-Dit-It engagements? Why mention Dawkins' strident attitude and so on unless Vernon means his appreciation for these sorts of questions somehow makes him better able to engage? There is no evidence to support his attack, nor his view that Dawkins’ attitude is doing anything wrong. This is an annoying paragraph – much like the whole silly article – but it becomes clear why he ended it as he did: to compares himself to Rees. Not in the sense of being as brilliant, but in the sense that both can be appreciative of and toward Templeton policy.
Rees pursues [the big questions], too, through cosmology, a subject that clearly fascinates many for similar reasons. Is there life like ours on other planets? What is the nature of our connectedness with the stars? It is partly for his insights on such matters that he has won the prize. But if he is modest about what can be achieved for religious belief by science, he insists that scientists should not stray into theological territory that they don't understand.
It is Rees' insights, not his evidence or his actual scientific research, that matters: His insights based on his own (very beautiful) writings and communications. It is not his research but Rees' somewhat open-hearted approach to the Divine and majesty within the Universe that won him the prize. Dawkins, remember, can’t appreciate beauty, can’t listen to any kind of music and love anything vaguely religious because he is just a smug, bad person with no social-media skills. If this is Vernon’s opinion, which this piece and those millions of others seem to indicate, then of course Vernon would think that Dawkins is not pursuing the big questions like Rees is.
Again, Dawkins himself has put it beautifully that he considers biology, or rather the study of evolution, to be the most important study of all: It answers “Where did we come from? Why are we here?” It even answers what the “purpose” of life is. None of these questions appear to satisfy many people; some people want grand, mythological narratives of which they are the centre between battling gods and swooping Hans Zimmer soundtracks. Rather, Dawkins would advocate that we consider a warm summer breeze and the sounds of a night garden, the Milky Way and pictures from the Hubble Telescope.
I don’t understand why anyone would want their lives to be out of a story written by Bronze-Age goat-herders. Certainly, because of science-writers like Dawkins and Steve Jones, I am considering studying biology. (Again, I don’t think I can with the brains required and all but I want to.) I agree with Dawkins’ assessment. So, if Dawkins is in the department directly involved in perhaps the most important questions, how does this distinguish him as any different from Sir Martin? Dawkins’ science was through a microscope; Sir Martin’s is through a telescope. Both are wonderful areas, with their own intricacies and theories that display human genius. Both, too, are related.
Vernon goes on to describe some previous prize-winners, like Paul Davies (who actually I really enjoy as a science-writer). “Davies is not [theistic or religious], though he believes it is perfectly valid to pursue questions of meaning in the context of what is being discovered about the cosmos. After all, is it not remarkable that our universe has produced entities within it that ask such questions – namely ourselves?”
Did Dr Vernon, a philosopher, just ask or rhetorically make the Fine-Tuning Argument? I don’t think it needs any more debunking than is already in place. But, let’s remember: Vernon is not a believer. It is doubtful he would be persuaded that there is anything more just because things look remarkably tuned that way. I don’t think it’s remarkable that the universe has produced entities like us since it could not have done otherwise. Vernon is giving a free-willed intention to the Universe. We can say things like “If the amount of carbon was this or that degree off, we never would’ve existed” but why is that useful? It didn’t happen. All those percentages are in place.
Consider: Imagine another universe, very similar to ours. Call it the Fire Universe. On one particular planet, in one particular solar-system, in one particular galaxy, there are conscious life-forms made of fire. They cannot exist on every part of their planet – some parts are too cold; other, ironically, are too hot – but nonetheless, there are certain parts of the planet that are Goldilocks good (i.e. just right). These Fire Beings would no doubt say “If carbon was just one degree off, we never would’ve existed!” But that’s the point! They exist. If the carbon was, say, a degree this way or that, Ice Beings would be there instead posing the same questions. This is not useful for discussions since, to repeat, it didn’t happen. (Notice the irony: Why make life-forms so potentially on the brink of non-existence? Why would a deity make it that life perpetually exists on a precipice. Remember: if all these amazing complicated numbers are just a tiny degree bigger or smaller, we would not have existed. But it also means if they change sometime today or tomorrow, we would cease to exist. I’m uncertain why this is an argument for god’s existence. It seems be the opposite.)
We can therefore point out that Vernon is placating Templeton policy with such a statement. It is not remarkable, Dr Vernon. It simply is. You are not posing a big question as opposed to a banal if not useless one. Ironically, these are exactly the sorts of questions Templeton, being a not-very-well disguised faith-based institution, would be asking: boring, circular and unhelpful for science. Finally, Vernon lops his culture-war grenade into the mix. Out of nowhere comes this sentence, found in the second last paragraph.
That such a highly regarded figure [as Sir Martin] has received its premier prize will make it that little bit harder for Dawkins to sustain respect amongst his peers for his crusade against religion.
He provides no evidence of this. This is something that that silly thing called science can verify. For example: Will Dawkins and other atheist book sales decrease? Will the rhetoric change into the rainbow-unicorn speak that explodes with glitter at the mention of the word “divine” and “remarkable” and “majestic”? Again: Vernon still does not understand that there is little linking science and Templeton save the scientists it has given money to. I’ve noted above that the sorts of questions Templeton tackles are not scientific; rather, it is this kind of hippy-ish, pantheistic wonderment at existence that qualifies one as a potential prize-winner. Templeton won’t give an award to a remarkable scientist who bashes god but, for example, cures cancers. It’s not about the science, it’s about the attitude. For this reason, it has nothing to do with science. Vernon does not appear to understand that. Therefore, it seems unlikely Dawkins will lose respect among his peers because his peers are, um, scientists.
Whether or not they do hold views like Sir Martin’s is beside the point. That’s what will win them the Templeton Prize. It’s not attitude that wins you a Nobel. Vernon’s piece is boring. Very boring. My column is longer than his article, obviously. But this all highlights something quite important that I think needs to be understood about science, attitude, snarkiness and so on. Vernon has made no argument and has contributed very little to the discussion. My aim is to try get Vernon away from talking about Dawkins and back on to talking about Plato. (Frankly, I prefer Plato to Dawkins but then I’m a follower of Socrates. Science is way above me.) That’s where Vernon shines and the more he continues to write nonsense like this, the less I want to read him, no matter his subject matter.
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Comments
This could use some editing (I winced at After all it is the major area fast destroying...), and it's a rather heavy piss on such a tiny fire, but it was a wonderful start to my day. I particularly enjoyed the reminder that scientists do deal with Big Questions, and that what grates Templeton is the possibility of non-mysterious answers.
Thank you, Tauriq.
Posted by: Ken Pidcock | Apr 18, 2011 7:25:23 AM
"I don’t think it’s remarkable that the universe has produced entities like us since it could not have done otherwise."
Could you clarify?
Posted by: Carlos | Apr 18, 2011 10:16:47 AM
Dear Carlos (if I may?)
I’m not clued up too much in these areas so please excuse this perfunctory reply.
As I indicated in the column, I’m fairly determinist when it comes to what might loosely be called causality (though I don't like that so maybe "how things came to be"). That is, every effect has a cause, which has a cause… etc. We can trace everything back (this ironically is an argument, as you probably know, for god as First Cause, pace Aristotle).
Anyway, the point was it is entirely uninteresting that we are here since the “reason” we are here can be traced back to an event, which is another event, which is another event and so on. This is a chain of causality (what the philosopher Roger Scruton terms nature, in fact). Thus, it is the case we are here because of this chain of causality and causes and effects, etc.
To say “It could’ve gone otherwise” seems to me a boring statement, best reserved for fiction-writers. Of course it could have gone another way... though I don’t think even that is true since to say it “could have” implies there was choice involved, whereas the universal laws are not intentional agents, merely "blind" laws acting in the phenomenal realm. So I don’t even understand how it “could have” gone otherwise since the laws have no intentional agent guiding it (unless you believe in god).
We might as well say “There could’ve been dragons in the world if this and that happened.” Sure, there could’ve been – maybe we could’ve sprouted wings and flown and had laser eyes. All this is possible if we change things in the universe. But why is that interesting? These fanciful claims about dragons are no different to saying “The universe could’ve not produced us.” Yes: there could’ve been dragons and there could not have been humans. But that’s not the case. Why ponder about it?
Posted by: TM | Apr 18, 2011 10:35:35 AM
Ah yes, the wonderful bleep goes on ad nauseum.
Posted by: Dredd | Apr 18, 2011 11:01:37 AM
So Cosmogony as a whole is uninteresting? The origin of life, a yawn? The vast human story of who or what was overcome to make us how we are today a colossal bore?
Or am I misunderstanding you?
Posted by: Carlos | Apr 18, 2011 12:49:19 PM
Carlos, you are misunderstanding him.
Tauriq, as someone already said " it's a rather heavy piss on such a tiny fire, but it was a wonderful start to my day.". Mine too...
Posted by: omar | Apr 18, 2011 12:58:49 PM
Tauriq. Your inability to even look at what Templeton actually does is extremely disappointing. Linking to a ridiculously under-reasearched and borderline slanderous article is not proof of Templeton's alleged status. Calling yourself a follower of Socrates while refusing to even do one iota of research on this question is not only irresponsible, it's just plain gross. You're falling into lock-step with the armies of online lemmings who blather on about Templeton without actually looking at their projects (I repeat: start with the Character Project, which tries to answer 5 questions, only one of which is even remotely theological).
You can do better than this.
Posted by: Nick Smyth | Apr 18, 2011 2:27:31 PM
And an interesting end to my day...
There are the usual points about the murky motivations for Templeton. Whereas I am all for the clarifying the motivation behind science funding, there are many other instances where science and scientists are "corrupted" by funding sources. Tobacco companies funding research on cancer and the effects of tobacco are a classic historic instance. So yes, there are other, bigger fires to piss on.
Posted by: Bill | Apr 18, 2011 2:32:11 PM
Social proof matters much more in religious mode than in science mode, because religious belief is more social than epistemic in nature.
When a religious believer says, "Look! He won the million-dollar Templeton Prize!" he's reaching for a social proof justification, and will be surprised when it's not accepted by a scientist. Similarly, the scientist might be surprised when a religious person is not swayed by scientific evidence.
Posted by: Sister Y | Apr 18, 2011 2:39:07 PM
I suggest a swap. Rees gets the Peace Prize because I am willing to presume that his credentials as a pacifist must exceed the demonstarated performance of our wayward President. Obama gets the Templeton because we just can't agree on the merits upon which it is to be awarded. Dawkins is thereby excised from the conversation because commentary upon Him is all heat and no illumination.
Posted by: Erich | Apr 18, 2011 7:29:03 PM
Not a very street smart bunch, if one cannot read the situation well enough to get the con.
If one cannot see the motivations of Templeton, your genetic fitness is at question in the world I travel in.
Posted by: Scott | Apr 18, 2011 8:20:24 PM
Frankly, I prefer Plato to Dawkins but then I’m a follower of Socrates. Science is way above me.
It was above Plato also, and modern science started when Aristotle was rejected, and it was finally recognized he got just about everything wrong.
Posted by: Scott | Apr 18, 2011 8:25:04 PM
Though, to give Aristotle his due, he WAS the first scientist that we know of in some detail. For his time, his work was impressive, groundbreaking, visionary, truly worth honoring (but of course, we have moved on since then in terms of knowledge, he probably expected that too)
Posted by: omar | Apr 18, 2011 10:52:40 PM
Heraclitus got the emergent dialectical world correct, and Democritus nailed atomic theory.
Aristotle was post 5th Century Athens, and was a philosopher when Greek Thought was in a conservative, and degenerating period, the Reagan Revolution of Greece.
If it wasn't for the Catholic Church, and its comparable world view of Aristotle, he would not of been on the center stage.
Posted by: Scott | Apr 19, 2011 1:55:26 AM
Ah, how these scientists love one another.A pox on fundamentalists of any stripe, Bright, or not.
Posted by: Judith Mason | Apr 19, 2011 4:32:05 AM
What! No mention of the Pre-Socratic Miletus school, e.g. Thales, Anaxamander, etc.? Too bad we don't have much to go on with these guys, but their rationalist perspective was far ahead of its time, even if we've since discovered that the world really isn't all made of air (or water).
Archimedes of Syracuse is the only "scientist" of antiquity who I can think of whose work has survived to this day and was based on proper experimental scientific foundations. His pumps, gears, levers and pulley systems are still useful today..as they were during the spirited defense of Syracuse against the Roman fleet... Archimedes was one of the first to have a scientific principle named after him.
Aristotle's work, for all its beauty, proved to be a dead end, but was a powerful force in its time.
Posted by: Bill | Apr 19, 2011 6:58:05 AM
Fellow sectarians, I DID say "the first scientist we know of in some detail"...
and I am sure you all remember the article a few weeks ago about Aristotle being the greatest biologist of all time (I voted for Darwin).
Posted by: omar | Apr 19, 2011 8:14:31 AM
Awful. Just awful.
Posted by: Chris | Apr 20, 2011 2:47:11 AM
Good points, obviously.
As for the comments, science is a modern development, and Newton with contemporaries were among the first ever to apply it in that sense. Former naturalists were mostly philosophers, sometimes observers and sometimes empiricists. Aristotle was a catastrophe for empiricism, used by religion to set knowledge back. Way back.
@ TM:
"Of course it could have gone another way... though I don’t think even that is true since to say it “could have” implies there was choice involved,"
Filtering as in natural selection involves (mechanistic) "choice" as do other convergent processes. Stochastic processes & deterministic chaos involves choice as do other divergent processes. Every time pathways are added or pared down there are branching points. (In Many World theory it happens all the time due to quantum mechanical stochasticity.)
So while I don't subscribe to such a picture of physics, I do find the religious anthropic (finetuning) argument boring. It is a simple mistake of exchanging a priori probability for a posteriori likelihood. (I.e. small chances for life vs large likelihood of life being compatible with its environment - or else. :-D)
@ Nick Smyth:
"the armies of online lemmings who blather on about Templeton without actually looking at their projects"
Well, "armies" are likely on to something. (Lemmings is an inappropriate analogy, it portrays non existent folk biology.) The reason one can dismiss Templeton's projects is because they are motivated by religion, as amply illustrated in the article ("ultimate reality", Agnes Bojaxhiu, "big questions").
@ Bill:
"there are many other instances where science and scientists are "corrupted" by funding sources"
But it would be a fallacy of false choice to imply that one should never pursue criticism of religion.
The catholic church is responsible for systematically promoting AIDS, pedophilia and gay hate over the whole world for example. In the case of pedophilia it has recently been revealed as criminal, the criminality reaching all the way up to the organizations current leader! Lawyers are pursuing this as we write.
Posted by: Torbjörn Larsson, OM | Apr 20, 2011 1:20:36 PM
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