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March 14, 2011

The Cheese Party: Is Wisconsin The Start Of An American Revolution (Or Will You Always Be Ruled By Goldman Sachs)?

by Evert Cilliers aka Adam Ash

ScreenHunter_04 Mar. 14 10.18 Whenever I pay taxes, I think of the fact that  GE and Exxon paid no taxes in 2009, that Goldman Sachs pays under 2% taxes, and that billionaire hedge fund managers pay a tax rate of 15%. As Warren Buffett says, his secretary pays taxes at a higher rate than he does.

The philosopher Emmanuel Levinas talks about the face-to-face encounter with the Other that induces empathy and morality. Well, I feel like my little face is going face-to-face with the gnarly butt of big business. And there's about as much empathy to be gotten from that butt as a mouse gets from a snake.

Bizarrely, I hear everyone walking around saying America and its states are broke, while Wall Street is coining billions and criminally under-paying their taxes. I hear the GOP saying we don't have a revenue problem; we have a spending problem. I see Obama extending the Bush tax cuts, which created no new jobs in eight years. And I'm thinking, I have so little hair left, what's the use of tearing out the last few?

Then it occurs to me that Americans must be one of four things, or a combination of all four:

b) stupid victims of learned helplessness.

c) stupidly apathetic to the point of cowardice.

d) stupid masochists.

d) plain stupid.

That includes you and me, dear reader. 

Then I think of GOP governors giving tax breaks to big business and claiming teachers have to give up benefits so these governors can balance their state budgets. Teachers are getting paid too much. Not CEOs. Not Wall Street bankers. Not lawyers. Not doctors. Teachers. 

Meanwhile, one teacher does more important work in one day than the entire board of vampire squid Goldman Sachs fraudsters do in their entire socially useless lives. Teachers should be paid more, not less.

Then I see the polls say Americans are concerned about jobs, jobs, jobs, but Washington is fighting over deficits, deficits, deficits. The GOP's deficit-cutting plan will cause a job loss of a million. Nobody in power is actually listening to what actual Americans want. The big guys are  stuffing down Marie Antionette layer cake while  one in six of West Virginia's population is on food stamps.

I watch 100,000 public service labor union members in Wisconsin protest to keep their collective bargaining rights, as they bargain away their benefits.

And I think: how pathetic.

They're not asking for rich people to pay more taxes, or for corporations to pay ANY taxes; they're asking to keep their collective bargaining rights.

That's like a guy being skinned alive asking his torturer not to skin his penis.

1. SHE WANTS TO TAKE YOUR COOKIE

Middle-class wages have remained essentially flat since the Reagan Revolution, while our productivity has improved dramatically. But CEO compensation has gone up by the hundredfolds. Between 2002 and 2007, the top 1% captured two thirds of income growth.

You've heard the big joke these days. A CEO is sitting down with a Tea Partier and a teacher, and there's a plate of 12 cookies on the table. The CEO takes 11 cookies for himself, and says to the Tea Partier: "Watch out for that teacher. She wants a piece of your cookie."

Given the fact that Americans are really stupid, really cowardly, really masochistic and really helpless, how can we save ourselves from our predatory elite?

I don't think the Wisconsin protests will do it (what might help a little, is if they recall Governor Walker next year). 

What this country needs is some kind of miraculous transplant of smarts and guts, which might lead to our citizens actually organizing themselves into a Cheese Party to take over the Democratic Party and scare them to act progressive for a change -- like the Tea Party has taken over the GOP and scared them hard right.

But do we have the innate guts and smarts for this? For a little genetic contrast: if, for example, what is happening to us were happening to the French, what would be happening? 

Let me tell you. We'd have Americans marching by the millions on Wall Street and burning Lloyd Blankfein in effigy. We'd have angry jobless people occupying the offices of Goldman Sachs from top to bottom. We'd have CEOs sitting locked up in their offices by their employees until they stopped outsourcing jobs. We'd have Tahrir Squares on the front lawns of Wall Street partners.

Unlike we Americans, the French people aren't cowards. They've got guts. They don't swallow crap on their knees on a hourly basis like we do, while our elite butt-bang us every minute of our waking days as we stoop to be conquered. When the French government screws up, the French citizens start tearing up the sidewalks and pelt the noggins of their cops with berets made of concrete. 

If only we had a little French sass in our genetic makeup. But we don't. We're Americans. We just lie down and take it. For how long, how long, how long?

2. OBAMA HAS THE GUTS OF A FEATHER DUSTER 

Forever, it seems.

Our leaders have no guts either. Obama didn't have the guts to go for the big stimulus of $1.3 trillion that his own economist Christina Romer told him was needed, and that Nobel-winning economists Krugman and Stiglitz said we needed in 2009. He settled for less than $800 billion with almost $300 billion wasted on tax remedies which were as stimulating as a road-killed armadillo is to a bunny rabbit on heat. So he came in with a third of what was needed, like a guy trying to impress a date by shlepping her to the local Burger King.

Then Obama didn't have the guts to start a WPA program to employ our unemployed construction workers to repair and rebuild our infrastructure, like FDR did when he created eight million jobs. Then Obama didn't have the guts to call off the costly war in Afghanistan immediately (a war that props up the second most corrupt state on earth after Somalia) but like a typical coward, he sucked up to the Pentagon by sending in more troops, and then he tried to brown-nose the rest of us by promising to pull the troops out in a year or two, or well ... sometime. This July maybe. Soonish. Depends on what people think at re-election time in 2012. Whenever. Never mind the Wikileaks revelation about the $52 million of our money in cash that Afghan Vice-President Ahmed Zia Massoud was caught with when he visited the Arab Emirates where the banks are; $52 million which we let him keep.

Then Obama didn't have the guts to turn the BP oil spill into a national cause for green energy investment. 

But don't blame just him. He's following a hallowed American tradition of no guts, no imagination and no smarts. A tradition stupendously honored by the gutless dumbasses we've consistently voted into the presidency for the last 30 years. Reagan, Bush One, Clinton, Bush Two and Obama ... these gutless dumbasses combined don't add up to one cell in FDR's brain or one ab in FDR's guts.

3. THE ONE PLACE THAT OUR SMARTS AND GUTS COULD COME FROM

There's only one place that our guts and smarts might come from. And that's from our unemployed. Yes, being unemployed, like the prospect of being hanged, concentrates the mind wonderfully. And it makes you desperate, too, which can make you gutsy.

You never know what could happen when people get desperate.

In Tunisia, one guy set himself on fire because the government fined his little sidewalk fruit stall, confiscated his equipment and wouldn't give it back ... and a short one month later, after some furious Facebook organizing and protests in which the oppressed populace suddenly grew balls, the dictator president who'd been in power for 23 years, fled the country to save his own suddenly-spooked-spermless balls. (He fled to our good friends the Saudis, whose citizens flew two planes into our World Trade Center, and who also took in Idi Amin.) 

This amazing revolution happened in Tunisia without a single word about it in their media: the revolt happened exclusively via Facebook, until Al Jazeera TV got word. Now finally many of the Arab dictators, including the Saudi princes, are shitting bricks like ants trying to pass elephant turds, and making sure they've got a private jet standing by fueled up 24/7 with enough ready Swiss bank money to scarper the heck out of Dodge toute suite, just in case the same thing happens in their oppressed corner of oppressed Muslim Arabia. As has happened in the biggest Muslim nation in the Middle East, Egypt, where Mubarak didn't leave the country, leaving himself open to possible prosecution. 

All this came about because one no-account dude got upset when the government swiped his fucking fruit stall.

Here in America, we have a jumped-up-from-nowhere-in-no-time Tea Party movement that has spooked all the GOP leaders to the lunatic right, to the point that John McCain claims he never was a party maverick. 

These Tea Party people complain bitterly about Obama's spending. Funny, they never complained about Bush's spending; they didn't even exist then. So where did they spring from so suddenly? Who are these Tea Party people? Here's who: they're simply older white Republicans with time on their hands who had enough money to retire and watch Fox News, and who got worried that a black president was going to take their money and give it to poor people. A black guy got inaugurated and wham! that's all it took for the Tea Party to spring up like maggots on a dead dog, and change the moribund GOP overnight from a party of seemingly slightly unhinged run-of-the-mill lunatics into a party of off-the-wall gibbering crazed-from-sternum-to-cranium lunatics (the GOP's new vaunted brainiac, Paul Ryan, believes in privatizing Social Security, proving him more crazily brainless than a flatworm's anal orifice).  

Change can happen real fast in today's internet-connected world.

4. HERE COME THE 99ERS

Here in America the fastest-growing new subgroup of Americans to watch out for isn't the Tea Party, but the so-called 99ers. These are folks who've been unemployed for 99 weeks, so their unemployment insurance has run out.

I'm thinking they could be our saviors -- our Tunisians, so to speak. Listen up as I marshall my facts.

In June 2010, the Labor Department reported that there were an estimated 4.3 million 99ers. It's been estimated that there were 7 million at the end of 2010, and perhaps 4 million will be added in 2011. These are people who have no income: they are drawing down all their savings and losing their homes, and they will become tent city dwellers if they aren't already. If I were George Soros, I'd give them all tickets to go to Washington D.C. so they can make a huge tent city of millions right under the snot-nosed noses of our rulers. 

You have to wonder what's going to happen when there are say 20 million of them. 20 million unemployed, desperate, penniless, homeless Americans. Or 40 million. Many of them will be young people who can't find a job, and have moved back in with their parents: young people in much the same position as can't-find-a-job young people in Tunisia and Egypt. Like the Tea Party people, these 99ers will have time on their hands. These 99ers already have their own websites.

Meanwhile, right on time, our punditry is currently banging on about the inequality of wealth, income and opportunity in America. Like the top 1% own 35% of our wealth, while the top 20% own 85% of our wealth, leaving the bottom 80% to squabble for the last 15%, which is rapidly moving away from them into the hands of the folks at the top.

Enough to give the 99ers some food for thought. Enough to turn their natural paranoia and fear of survival onto an enemy out there.

5. THE COMING CLASS WAR IN AMERICA

To make a long story short, the stage is being set -- courtesy of our dumbass elite -- for a good old-fashioned class war. The unemployed against the rest of us. And if the rest of us don't join the unemployed in a class war against the actual greedy-to-the-max 1% -- no more than 1.3 million fat cats out of our working population -- America will tear itself to pieces. Let's hope it will be 99% of us against 1%. That gives us a fighting chance of reversing the class war that the top 1% of don't-care fat cats have waged upon the rest of America -- and won big with the help of our oh-so-caring government.

In the Great Depression -- our only valid comparison point -- there was indeed a class war. Same as now: the downtrodden against the greedy-to-the-max. The downtrodden were so trodden down, when the unemployment rate rose to over 19%, millions of Americans actually died of starvation. Yep, starvation ... while businesses and the government were destroying “redundant” food.

Back in those days, in the spring and summer of 1932, there was a march on Washington of the so-called Bonus Army of 43,000 marchers (17,000 WW1 vets and their families and affiliates). The Bonus Army demanded immediate cash redemption of bonus certificates issued to the WW1 vets in 1924, that were to be paid out in 1945 (maybe the government figured they'd all be dead by then). 

Think about the 99ers marching on Washington as the Bonus Army did, and in their case demanding immediate reinstatement of their unemployment benefits. Those 100,000 Wisconsin labor protesters will be a petite storm in a porcelain teacup compared to a tsunami of millions of marching 99ers.

Here's what happened to the Bonus Army. First the Washington Police tried to drive the Bonus Army out of their encampment. Two vets were killed, but the protesters stayed put. Then President Herbert Hoover called in the army. The Army Chief of Staff, General Douglas MacArthur, commanded a bunch of cavalry and six tanks. In the ensuing battle, he drove the vets out of their encampment, killing another two of them. Their shelters and belongings were burnt to ashes. Yes, children, this happened in America, in our capital, when the closest thing to our present circumstances obtained in our dear land.

Finally, in 1936, Congress overrode FDR's veto and the Bonus Army got paid early. 

6. THINK OF THE UNEMPLOYED AS GODZILLA

All this, plus other unrest, especially big strikes in 1934, led to the big changes of the New Deal, which was essentially a successful power grab by the people, wresting power away from our then-greedy-to-the-max elite. The people were significantly helped by the fact that a leading member of the upperclass switched allegiance, betrayed his class and joined the underclass in their power grab. He happened to be the President, and from his high perch FDR heard and heeded the voices of the damned. So huge changes happened -- like Social Security, like the Glass-Steagall Act that hogtied the banksters, like labor unions getting strong enough to give workers a decisive voice, etcetera. And after the class war got settled in favor of the people, we had a good long comfortable ride, full employment for forty years after WW2, until that rich man's poodle Ronald Reagan started the comeback of the privileged rich, which led to trade unions being weakened, and immense productivity gains by workers not coming to them but going to the already rich, and the gutting of Glass-Steagall so the banksters were free to fleece us, and the removal of oversight over derivatives -- both under that dumbass Clinton -- and the lifting of the 12:1 leverage limit on Wall Street speculation under that even bigger dumbass Bush Two. Suddenly our economy went into boom-and-bust mode again after growing steadily for fifty years, and the Reagan Revolution turned the loss of the elite during the New Deal into a clear win for them. 

Now our fat cats are occupying the fat catbird's seats again. And with the exception of Bernie Madoff, not a single big-time Wall Street bankster is in jail for Wall Street's worldwide Ponzi fraud. If just one of them -- say, Lloyd Blankfein or Dick Fuld -- was having his Hershey canal invaded on a regular basis by some over-muscled prison inmate, Wall Street would behave themselves ASAP. Instead, they're back to making million-dollar bonuses while their victims go jobless and homeless. Result: today our democracy is a fully-fledged plutocracy: government by the rich, of the rich, and for the rich. Wall Streeters have bought themselves a lifetime stay-out-of-jail-free card.

Not that Wall Street should rest all that easy. Their rip-off schemes have become more evident to more of the ripped-off. And when they wreck us again ... well, folks, we may end up living in interesting times. 

As our main competition, the Chinese, like to curse their enemies.

I'd say there's a fifty-fifty chance that within the next ten years, if a few good demagogues get on a few media-covered soapboxes, the unemployed may rise up like a mightily pissed Godzilla, and then the national fan could be hit by the sizable excrement like no fan has been hit by any excrement, and there will be bits and pieces of excrement flying flotsam-and-jetsam-like all over the place, all over you and me, dear reader, all over America, from sea to shining sea. 

Even a worm like America can turn.

Personally, I can't wait. What with 400 channels and nothing on TV, I could do with an interesting time in my life. I wouldn't mind seeing the 99ers loot the headquarters of Goldman Sachs. I wouldn't mind seeing some of our rich crooks jump on their private jets and flee. In fact, I'd like to see some social and economic justice in our country for a change. How about you? 

Posted by Evert Cilliers at 01:35 AM | Permalink

Comments

I'm a 99'er in Wisconsin and think Gov. Walker has figured out exactly what the first step toward fiscal sanity required. Whereas heretofor we had the union sitting across from those beholden to it (a.k.a. collective bargaining), we now have put in place a system where the taxpayer (85% of Wisconsin adults) have a seat at the bargaining table. And in exchange for half what federal employees pay for health insurance and pension benefits, teachers and WI gov. employees will not face huge layoffs in order to balance the budget. Who in the private sector wouldn't welcome having to pay 7.5% toward their pension and 16% of their generous healthcare plan(with taxpayers covering the remainder)? Thus, with these two relatively small concessions both public employees and taxpayers in Wisconsin win. Seeing the nuclear option other governors are doing in places like California, Illinois and New York to cite just three, the teachers and public employees get to keep their well paying jobs while the other 85% in Wisconsin get a balanced budget and the hope that fiscal sanity will set the stage for new business growth.

Posted by: Cory Block | Mar 14, 2011 9:12:33 AM

The French have 35 hour work weeks, a functioning national health system and roughly a month of holiday, if not more, every year. Leaving plenty of time for them to dedicate towards reading, getting enraged and burning things in effigy.

We lie down and take it because Americans are enslaved to their employers, the health insurance provided by their employers and the employers final decision on when they might be able to, if at all, let the American take their holiday.

Posted by: Nathan | Mar 14, 2011 9:57:07 AM

Thank you Nathan for noting that.

I think it's a matter of perspective. Americans are just comfortable enough. Employees rights have been slowly drained away in favor of competition because that's what the market called for. They're used to it and too afraid to see anything worse than they already have.

On the other hand, are the Unions working for workers rights or for themselves?

The problem with revolution via the Union Rights argument is that it is dead-end and head-on with the corporate powers that be, it is its own 'corporate power' character as it is.

The jobs revolt will likely be more successful if they aren't defined by Union Rights. Most of America is not Unionized, private unions are a joke, and anyone not in a Union have enough stereotypical ideas of how shitty Union workers are as employees that it won't get enough support (hence the -not completely organic- backlash of public opinion in opposition to Unions).

American values and Unions don't go hand in hand. This has to be a workers revoltion to make sense. In fact, its the non-unionized public that's getting screwed as it is (hence, again, the opposition).

Posted by: andthensome | Mar 14, 2011 11:33:27 AM

"millions of Americans actually died of starvation" in the Great Depression.

Do the historians know about this? It seems like it is important.

Are you trying to be a lefty version of Glenn Beck or just fulfil his deepest fantasies?

Posted by: Philosopher's Beard | Mar 14, 2011 12:10:49 PM

I agree with every word you say, but have arrived at a different conclusion. The American of today is constitutionally incapable of rising against his bonds and smiting the greedy 1%; there is a slavish regard for the wealthy that has been transmuted into worship; this has been happening over the past few decades and the American worship of wealth is now at an all time indecent high.

Posted by: sheila | Mar 14, 2011 1:28:06 PM

Sheila:
I find your point about we Americans worshipping the wealthy very interesting.
I remember David Brooks saying we Americans don't resent the wealthy (like I know they do in the UK where I've lived) because we all think of ourselves as pre-rich.

But we do resent and detest Wall Street and their socially useless speculation. Our leaders won't play up to this emotion, though, because they need Wall Street to finance their campaigns. But it seems to me that leaves an opening for a Cheese Party demagogue to exploit.

BTW, I've seen the Wisconsin protesters called the Madison Wave and a People's Party. I call them the Cheese Party because I think they need a catchy name to become a banner to rally under -- and for the media to take notice of them, like they do with the Tea Party, which has a catchy moniker.

Andthensome: I think the unions will have to be part of the rise of a Cheese Party or a People's Party; after all, they have the organizing muscle. The unions play a big part in bringing out Democratic Party voters to the polls every election. I don't share your suspicion of labor unions. But I think you're right to say we need a worker's party that is not necessarily a labor union party. Most workers don't have a union.

Philosopher's Beard: I wish there were lefty versions of Beck -- I believe that the crazy brings media coverage (witness Michele Bachmann). There are so few crazies on the left. We are all so sensible. Where's the rage? Where are the rants? Who is there besides Michael Moore and Bernie Sanders? Even they are not given to overstatement. The left seems to be represented by the Rachel Maddows and Naomi Kleins of this world: smart, sensible, intellectual pundits, with a touch of the elitist about them. I think we need to get a little crazy and passionate. MSNBC's Ed Schultz has got a lot of what we need: down-home passion and workingman's outrage. I wish there was a political leader or radio personality on the left willing to ride the wave of Wall Street antipathy, the way Rush Limbaugh runs on anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-science, anti-whatever prejudice.

Even now, with the banks cheating people around loan modifications (Paul Krugman has a good piece on that in today's NY Times), a lefty ranter against Wall Street would never run out of good material, and garner an appreciative audience.

Finally, it mystifies me why Obama didn't get more into the Wisconsin fight. I know he wants to keep Wall Street happy, but he could've jumped in more heatedly, and then spent the end of the year mollifying Wall Street to raise the billion he's going to need to run. He has really fluffed a good opportunity to get his base energized.

All for now.

Evert aka Adam

Posted by: Evert Cilliers | Mar 14, 2011 2:13:51 PM

didn't the French assist in the Civil War???

Posted by: andthensome | Mar 14, 2011 2:53:28 PM

BRAINS: the liberal elite stuff has to stop if you ever want to get middle-America (blue-collar, joe the plumber) involved. Here's how to phrase it:

THEY (big biz/media/gov) think we're stupid and THEY (same) are lazy and greedy and think we are lazy

WE are not stupid or lazy, are we?

try it, your whole article would be more compelling

Posted by: andthensome | Mar 14, 2011 2:58:10 PM

Indeed, your point is a good one and worth spreading, but do be careful with your fact/opinion line and do away with the prurient, heteronormative "color" to describe your frustration. It does no one any good, and makes me hesitant to share this essay.

Posted by: JIMBO | Mar 14, 2011 3:03:35 PM

3. Most Americans don't realize how uncomfortable they are. You can utulize your argument further if the idea that normal life in America is uncomfortable, could be better (progressives), used to be better (conservatives). The unemployed aren't the only ones sufferring. Anyone working full-time, under their skill level at an average US company with an average US job worries (in this climate and at least some of the time) about their job security, is afraid to ask for a raise, Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck, most Americans have bad or no health insurance choices... the discomfort is rising.

Posted by: andthensome | Mar 14, 2011 3:04:23 PM

The system does not work. Protests do not work. Voting does not work. Time for war. Time to grab a gun a take a side. There is no two ways about it. It's sad that it has come to this, but it has.

Posted by: BND | Mar 14, 2011 3:05:28 PM

ALSO on 3.

http://unfinishedscript.wordpress.com/2011/01/17/sets-himself-on-fire/

Posted by: andthensome | Mar 14, 2011 3:06:45 PM

"... after all, they have the organizing muscle."

That's the problem with the Unions being in the forefront, they are a center of power and that's what leads to all this insanity in the first place, it wouldn't be a solution, it would be a replacement of masters. Look into Libertarian Socialism and Democratic socialism to give some depth to your ideas.

Posted by: andthensome | Mar 14, 2011 3:13:15 PM

JIMBO: i clicked through your site and it made me laugh. :D

Posted by: andthensome | Mar 14, 2011 3:28:23 PM

OK, one more. To get the average American worker angry:

Explain to them in terms they understand with lots and lots of evidence and expert opinion - how much they would actually make in corporate system that was based on employee-based ownership. Look into economics value of labor. Production values, etc... This is what will bring the rest of the country on board if there were to be an actual revolution.

Posted by: andthensome | Mar 14, 2011 3:40:51 PM

agree with JIMBO: i'd consider sharing this (if i don't agree with every point, i at the very least agree with the outrage) but there is absolutely no need to include the whiffs of homophobia, and i wouldn't pass it on while those remain.

Posted by: kara | Mar 14, 2011 3:44:35 PM

Here we go again. Sorry about the few "colorful" phrases, folks. This time out was EXTREMELY mild, believe you me. But don't share if you think it will reflect adversely on your civility.

I didn't grow up in America, so I'm sadly bereft of puritanism, politically correct speak, or maidenly aunt daintiness. Call it a blind spot. A lacuna in politesse. In a word, sophomoric. The reason why Judd Apatow movies are popular.

Some likes it, some don't. I just find it bizarre that people will say the most "colorful" things in conversation, laugh at it in the movies, chuckle over it in novels, but bowdlerize their inclinations when someone introduces such speech into a column about politics (and BTW, my gay brother can satirically out-homophobe y'all). What is it -- politics should be protected from dirty jokes? What the heck is so sacred and circumscribed about politics, for chrissake? Newt Gingrich is a dirty joke all by himself.

Anyway, apologies. And blow me with a wind tunnel.

Posted by: Evert Cilliers | Mar 14, 2011 5:44:10 PM

The people who are needed for Evert's revolution don't hide behind "WTF".

Posted by: Erich | Mar 14, 2011 6:48:12 PM

oh fuck. you're probably right. it probably is puritanism (and my maidenly aunt daintiness) that makes me wonder why the phrase "having his Hershey canal invaded" adds anything to this essay. since you didn't grow up in america, you may also not realize this country doesn't have a great history when it comes to gender and sexuality inclusivity, and that as much fun as it is to use what you call "dirty jokes" in an essay that ostensibly contributes to some form of public discourse, *words actually mean things.* lots of things. including bad, hateful, hurtful things. i'm not censoring you. just questioning your taste.

i like the essay and your irreverence is engaging. why put stupid shit in there, then?

Posted by: kara | Mar 14, 2011 9:41:57 PM

Look:

Pure logic: If people can't be trusted to solve social problems voluntarily (a market), then they dang sure can't be trusted with the ability to use violence (taxes, wars, prisons, laws).

The only way forward is a system based upon property rights. (Anarcho-capitalism) Period.

Any other 'solution' is logically and morally self-contradictory.

Posted by: jesse | Mar 14, 2011 9:56:46 PM

"Any other 'solution' is logically and morally self-contradictory." closed-minded much. anarcho-capitalism (cite: America) is just a device for change, it is not the solution itself, it's the red-flag, the road flare... but I think the contradiction of ideas here is based on a contradiction in beliefs. that's the problem, anarcho-capitalism (cite: Russia - remember that?!) eat or be eaten in 'the market' is your ideal of what evolution is and should be - I think that we are capable of a higher ideal. I think we are capable of a world that exists that is mostly good and mostly fair and where the idea of morality was to attempt to be good to the people around you and to accept (each to his own ability) the diversity of ideas and cultures around them. When people stop fighting over how many resources they can gather around themselves to withhold from others and start imagining a world where the openness of resources allows for abundance each to the degree of how much that man puts into it without shitting on everything beneath him. I believe in that. That's my ideal, is that morally reprehensible?

Posted by: andthensome (unfinishedscript) | Mar 14, 2011 10:54:19 PM

Kara,
Well may you question my taste. It tends to the juvenile. Some boys never grow up.

Posted by: Evert Cilliers | Mar 14, 2011 10:57:47 PM

Jesse,
No community can function without laws and the means to enforce them. The question is, do these laws, or the enforcement or non-enforcement of them, favor the common good, or do they favor the good of a predatory elite?
And will voters have the smarts and the guts to organize for real change when the cards are stacked against the common good?

Posted by: Evert Cilliers | Mar 14, 2011 11:02:43 PM

Evert,
If FDR had so much more in the way of "guts" than Obama, why did it take a Congressional override of his veto to get the Bonus Army paid?

Posted by: Mike | Mar 14, 2011 11:10:31 PM

Mike,
FDR wasn't perfect. I guess he didn't want to pay the money before it was promised. Anyway, the man had guts. He was a stand-up traitor of his class.

I don't think we'll ever see the guts of an FDR, or for that matter, of Trust-busting Teddy Roosevelt, ever again in a president. Pity.

Posted by: Evert Cilliers | Mar 14, 2011 11:16:57 PM

So who will protect us against the people in the state?

The same citizens who can't be trusted with their own bodies and properties?

Which is it? People can or can't be trusted with power?

How can people who can't be trusted with their own bodies and property, suddenly be trusted with the right to vote on the use of violence and on the use of OTHER people's property?

Why do people in the state have opposing moral rules? Aren't they just people?

Why can they be trusted with violence?

It's a morally and logical contradiction to say that we need a violent monopoly to protect us against people who might use violence.

Posted by: jesse | Mar 14, 2011 11:17:16 PM

Can you imagine today's Congress overriding a president's veto of legislation extending benefits to the 99ers?

This isn't about guts, Evert. The obvious point is that the political climate today is starkly different from that of the 1930s. Obama is a cerebral leader trying to navigate in a rather thorny environment.

Posted by: Mike | Mar 14, 2011 11:32:42 PM

Why does the SEIU or the AFL-CIO pay a corporate tax rate of 0%? Why does the Ford Foundation and all the other "charitable" entities that are advocate organizations, almost exclusively "progressive", pay zip in taxes?

How about the idea that everyone pays taxes? It puts them in touch with reality. And it makes it a little more competitive for the whores in Washington, or Sacramento, or Madison to earn their keep.

Posted by: Jo | Mar 15, 2011 5:25:17 AM

employee owned businesses makes the employees accountable. people are willing to pay taxes, businesses are not. people would be more willing to allow this 'market' when they have a stake in it. the concentration of power in the hands of a few is what cannot be trusted.

people cannot be trusted with concentration of power but when you spread it out like I'm saying, we are all accountable to eachother and everyone involved is aware of that.

It is a persons choice what they do with their body, the morality of which is determined by whether or not that is harmful to others. Property on the other hand, has been taught to me as belonging to the earth but that would never fly without a serious and unprecedented world events (which no one really wants to see happen), so there are other socialist solutions to the issue of property rights that are not so black and white as the usual definition. Democratic Socialism being one of them.

Violence is not caused by 'bad' people... well some of it, you'll never be able to get rid of jails and mental institutions. Inequality and greed are probably the largest contributors to violence, if you'd ever studied poverty OR the effects of high rates of poverty, it'd make more sense why eradicating poverty would make a huge difference. Also, who's revolting? who's revolt is more dangerous, comfortable rich people that aren't getting their way or the incredibly repressed citizenry living on what they're told is the all they can have. Developed nations work their asses off to ensure low jobless rates (unsuccessfully lately) not because it is for the common good, but because it helps stave off political unrest.

How is it that a few citizens can be trusted with the rules and ways of war when so many more are being held accountable to their decisions?

Posted by: andthensome (unfinishedscript) | Mar 15, 2011 7:48:27 AM

Agree

Better to call it the "shoe" party (with its double connotation: let's shoo them out of here)

Posted by: Eduardo | Mar 15, 2011 9:26:21 AM

If you look back at any time in the American past you will discover how totally misinformed, dumb, poorly educated on what is taking place at the national or world leve. Dumb is the answer. Americans are plain dumb.

If this were not the case, and the post is on target, then explain how we consistently have nearly 50 % of our voters supporting the GOP in our elections. And now think of those too lazy to even vote!
DUMB. LAZY. POORLY EDUCATED.

Posted by: NATHAN ZUCKERMAN | Mar 15, 2011 11:07:33 AM

but are they dumb because they are poorly educated (i.e. believing fox news is real news) or are they dumb because they are inherently dumb?

are they lazy because they are insolated from the real world and living in a consumerist culture or are they lazy because they are inherently lazy?

If americans are so dumb and lazy than how are the ones that have so much education and economic security available to them so smart and industrious? Is it because they are inherently smart and industrious or is it because they have a good education and options as to what to do with that education?

There was an idea in this country that one could transcend the class they were born into... how much has that actually happened? and to what degree? As economic disparity has increased the bottom rungs of that ladder have been kiicked off (capitalism) and continue to be.

Posted by: andthensome | Mar 15, 2011 11:26:14 AM

welp! there it is, it's started:

http://richardbrenneman.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/anonymous-declares-war-on-federal-reserve/#more-10773

"WHO: YOU
WHAT: THE SIEGE OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE
WHEN: MARCH 28+
WHERE: 12 DISTRICT FED BANKS PLUS BOARD OF GOVERNORS IN DC
WHY: FREEDOM"

Posted by: andthensome | Mar 15, 2011 1:06:00 PM

“The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it”. – Albert Einstein

I wouldn't worry over people with delicate shell-like ears or "beautiful minds"

Posted by: Barbara Kuhn | Mar 16, 2011 12:12:20 AM

I've come to the conclusion that if history teaches us just one thing, it is that the fundamental question on how to organise a society is this:

How do we stop the ruling class from stealing everything?

Posted by: Teapot | Mar 16, 2011 10:09:31 AM

ANSWER: You eliminate the need for a 'ruling class'

Posted by: andthensome | Mar 16, 2011 11:38:36 AM

"How do we stop the ruling class from stealing everything?"

I've never seen the basic problem of organizing a society summed up better than this.

It's probably the enduring failure of the American Constitution that it didn't address this question. And why not? Our Constitution was drawn up by the ruling class, who did not see themselves as the problem.

They saw the people as the problem. They were scared of the unruly mob, instead of the unruly rulers.

Posted by: Evert Cilliers | Mar 16, 2011 12:08:43 PM

For Evert, the 3QD truth teller:


Lifting the Veil

Posted by: Louise Gordon | Mar 16, 2011 1:20:59 PM

"Meanwhile, one teacher does more important work in one day than the entire board of vampire squid Goldman Sachs fraudsters do in their entire socially useless lives. Teachers should be paid more, not less."

Globally, the US education has to be seen as a miserable failure.

If we're stupid, are we too stupid, or stupid and cowardly, or stupid and masochistic to recognize a primary source of our stupidity? Have they done that good a job?

Nobody's right if everybody's wrong.

Posted by: Carlos | Mar 16, 2011 2:11:27 PM

Louise:
Thank you for the link. Just finished watching it. Amazing.

Posted by: Evert Cilliers | Mar 16, 2011 11:07:47 PM

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