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September 27, 2010

Opposition to the “Mosque”: An Atheist Perspective

by Robert B. Talisse and Scott F. Aikin

Talisse&Aikin1 We, the authors, are atheists.  Some will no doubt hold that since atheists abhor religion in all its forms, consistency demands that they oppose the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque” (which in fact is neither a mosque nor at ground zero).  The thought is that atheists must oppose the building of any new building devoted to religious observance.  But this view about what atheists must believe is false. Abhorrence of religion does not entail abhorrence of the freedom to practice religion.  Atheists indeed affirm freedom of conscience, even though they oppose the views to which many are led by their consciences.

We atheists are particularly well placed to speak to public matters concerning religious tolerance.  As we have no religion of our own, atheists are especially well practiced at tolerating religion.  More importantly, atheists are also keenly attuned to the importance of religious tolerance and freedom of conscience for a democratic society.  And the controversy over the so-called Ground Zero Mosque is a clash over these very principles. Our view is that those who oppose the Mosque have abandoned fundamental principles at the core of the form of constitutional democracy originated by the United States.

First, consider some facts.  America is home to nearly two million Muslims.  The vast majority of them obey the law, respect the Constitution, serve their country, pledge allegiance to the United States of America, pay taxes, love their children, live peacefully with their neighbors, give generously to charities, contribute to their communities, work hard, and so on.  A considerable number of Muslim citizens were killed in the terrorist attacks of 9/11; and many have died since then, courageously serving America in the War on Terror. 

Muslim citizens and their families suffered the attacks on 9/11 and their aftermath right along with the rest of America.  Thus the most common way of framing the controversy over the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque”-- in terms of “them” and “us”-- is entirely wrongheaded.  Some of “us” are devout Muslims, and Muslims in America are particularly keen to affirm an understanding of their religion that contradicts the view of Islam propagated by the extremists who perpetrated the attacks on 9/11.  Insofar as the country embraces the view of Islam that the terrorists promote, it capitulates to the terrorists and insults its Muslim citizens.  Those who have adopted the terrorists’ view of Islam basically say to nearly two million of their fellow citizens, “You claim that your religion is peaceful, and even though your behavior confirms this, we do not believe you.  We believe the terrorists instead.”  This attitude is simply unacceptable.  Consider: No one rushes to equate Christianity with the religious views of extremist Christians who murder doctors and nurses, bomb buildings, protest at the funerals of our fallen soldiers, and so on.  When committed in the name of Christianity, such acts are called “extremist” not only because they’re extremely immoral and unjust, but also because they rely upon an extreme and hence distorted conception of the Christian faith. 

By calling the terrorist acts of 9/11 “extremist,” we in part affirm that they were based on a distorted conception of the Muslim faith.  People who oppose the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque” deny this; again, they accept the terrorists’ conception of Islam.  In doing so, they adopt a crucial component of the terrorists’ view of the world, namely, that a just and peaceful society of persons of different, and even opposed, religious faiths is not possible.  Once that position is accepted, the foundation of constitutional democracy is abandoned, and theocracy-- the view that social justice and peace is possible only among a people living under a single religious authority-- is embraced.  Popular opposition to the so-called Mosque, though most frequently portrayed as an expression of uncompromising patriotism, actually requires a betrayal of core commitments of American democracy.  What a disgrace.

To be sure, not everyone formulates their opposition in this overtly anti-American way.  Some invoke the age-old distinction between the right and the good, claiming that building a mosque at ground zero is unquestionably allowed by law, yet “insensitive” and thus morally wrong.  This view looks like a principled stance that affirms the legal rights of Muslims, while also making a moral plea against the so-called Mosque.  Yet those who formulate their opposition in this way nevertheless adopt the terrorists’ view of the matter.  To say that those who plan to build the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque” have the right to build it, but are morally wrong to do so, leaves completely intact the terrorists’ premise that people who adopt distinct and even opposed religious commitments cannot live together peacefully as equals.  It is to say, in effect, that the corrupt view of Islam explicitly endorsed by the terrorists and adopted by ignorant non-Muslim citizens in the US entails special moral restrictions on Muslim citizens concerning how and where they can congregate as a community; it is to assert that non-Muslim citizens are permitted to place upon Muslim citizens moral burdens that members of other faiths need not bear.  It is thus to embrace the terrorists’ understanding of Islam and to affirm their theocratic vision.

To put the matter in a different way, those who say that building the Mosque would be morally unacceptable because “insensitive,” are actually mired in a contradiction.  The call to be “sensitive” makes sense only if it is admitted that Muslim citizens are equal members of our society; for only those who are part of the “us” that is making the request for sensitivity should be moved by considerations concerning which acts are insensitive.  But then the view affirms that it is the terrorists’ conception of Islam that ought to prevail in America, thereby revoking the affirmation of equal membership upon which the request for sensitivity rests.  In short, if Muslim citizens are equal members of our society, they have the right to build a Mosque wherever it is legal for them to do so, and it is not a matter concerning which non-Muslim citizens should attempt to exert moral coercion.  If, on the other hand, the exertion of moral coercion is justified, then it must be that Muslims are not equal members of our society.  And that’s the view of the terrorists.

There is a third way in which popular opposition to the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque” is formulated.  Some say that because Christian churches are forbidden in certain parts of the Muslim world, there is reason to restrict the building of mosques in the United States.  But this is pure rationalization masquerading as reasoning.  Such a view affirms that the scope of religious freedom should be determined by foreign powers, in this case, leaders of the most intolerant and strident theocracies.  Those who adopt this argument would allow those who openly oppose freedom to set the example for America.  This is to concede crucial ground to the terrorists; in fact, it is, again, to affirm the terrorists’ view of the place of religion in society.

In short, those who oppose the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque” in any of these ways have abandoned one of the most precious commitments at the heart of American constitutional democracy.  But the problem is not merely that a crucial principle has been abandoned.  The opponents have in addition unwittingly-- at least we hope it’s unwitting-- embraced an alternate principle that is, in the end, at the core of the theocratic view promoted by the terrorists.  Once again, opposition to the so-called Mosque adopts the terrorists’ view of Islam and joins the terrorists in denying that persons of different and even opposed religious faiths can nonetheless live together as equals in a tolerant, just, and stable society. 

While it is true that the kind of atheism we, the authors, endorse asserts that the central and distinctive commitments of the world’s most popular religions are all false, we nonetheless uphold freedoms of conscience and religious exercise.  And we endorse these freedoms not merely as legal formalities or as regrettably necessary obstacles to tyranny.  The freedom to live in accordance with one’s deep-seated convictions about the Big Questions of human life is not a mere luxury; it is a fundamental component of human dignity.  Opposition to the Mosque refuses to recognize the dignity of a religious community in New York City that is committed to acting in ways designed to forcefully reclaim their faith from those who have distorted it.

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Robert B. Talisse is Professor of Philosophy at Vanderbilt University and author of Democracy and Moral Conflict (Cambridge University Press, 2009).  Scott F. Aikin is Senior Lecturer in Philosophy at Vanderbilt University and author of The Regress Problem in Epistemology (Routledge, 2010).  Talisse and Aikin are co-authors of the forthcoming book Reasonable Atheism (Prometheus Books).

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Comments

Bravo! Well said.

Posted by: Varun Shankar | Sep 27, 2010 5:20:55 AM

While I very much support your conclusions and general tenor, your argument comes a bit off the rails in the middle:

"The call to be 'sensitive' makes sense only if it is admitted that Muslim citizens are equal members of our society; for only those who are part of the 'us' that is making the request for sensitivity should be moved by considerations concerning which acts are insensitive. But then the view affirms that it is the terrorists' conception of Islam that ought to prevail in America, thereby revoking the affirmation of equal membership upon which the request for sensitivity rests."

Arguing for sensitivity does not necessarily mean that one agrees with any particular side in a debate. I do not believe that the burning of the Qu'ran (or any book) should be banned - indeed, such acts are clearly constitutionally protected speech - but when performed in the context of extreme misunderstanding and racism it servers no purpose but to rile up hatred. Calling for restraint in such a case does not put me on the side of those who support a U.N. ban religious criticism.

In the case of the New York community center, the calls for sensitivity appear to be little more than a mask for bigotry. However, that has to be argued. The issue can't be shoved away by merely stating that such people agree with "the terrorists," whoever that term may refer to, purely by the virtue that they have called for sensitivity.

It seems common to muddle the idea of protected rights and the necessity of their practice. An unused right is no right at all, but a militant disregard for outcome leads to dark and unwelcoming place. Indeed, intelligently choosing when and where to exercise one's rights ensures continued respect for their very existence.

It is clear to me that the community center is one such place and time, and that to give in to the demand for it to move would significantly weaken American pluralism. Or, as you put it so nicely,

The freedom to live in accordance with one’s deep-seated convictions about the Big Questions of human life is not a mere luxury; it is a fundamental component of human dignity.

Cheers to that! I look forward to your upcoming book.

Posted by: Cyrus Hall | Sep 27, 2010 5:33:13 AM

I really like this. Why can't it be a T-shirt or bumper-sticker or a sharp quip fired back at some hot head in a televised debate that shuts him up totally and people remember for years afterwards? Why?

Posted by: Pete Chapman | Sep 27, 2010 7:28:32 AM

I agree that the planning application for Park 51 should be dealt with in exactly the same way as any other application. If the City authorities would not normally ask "Which religion? And what do we think of it?", they should not do so in this case. Only thus can we preserve the rule of law, rather than the rule of men.

When we get on to questions of whether the proposal is insensitive, or should be modified, I do not suppose that there is a definite answer to be had. "Is is appropriate?" is not the same sort of question as "Is it legal?". Ronald Dworkin optimistically offers us Judge Hercules, who will always find the right answer. We have no reason to suppose that Hercules could perform the same feat with regard to questions of appropriateness.

But if we cannot answer the question of appropriateness to everyone's satisfaction, we may be able to establish the following sequence of conditionals to the satisfaction of a decent proportion of people on both sides:

If Park 51 should be regarded as appropriate, that is by virtue of a tradition of tolerance and freedom. (It cannot be by virtue of a pro-Islam tradition, because the United States is a religiously plural society, and one in which the Government is not supposed to meddle in religion.)
If there is a tradition of tolerance and freedom, that extends to all lifestyles that do not directly harm others.
Therefore, if Park 51 should be regarded as appropriate, so should other buildings in the vicinity that promote lifestyles which Islam would condemn.

Obviously, work would be needed to fill this out, and in particular to justify the Millian harm principle interpretation of tolerance and freedom. But my conclusion is that Park 51 should be allowed to go ahead, and that if it does, I fervently hope that the gay bar next door which I hear has been proposed will go ahead too.

I am also an atheist, so I have no bias as between religions: I would love to see gay bars next to fundamentalist Christian churches, shops selling forbidden food opposite synagogues and Hindu temples, and so on. I don't think we need to have these challenges to faiths, only that they are a very useful assertion of the principle of freedom.

Posted by: Richard Baron | Sep 27, 2010 8:12:16 AM

No one has a corner on magical thinking, embarrassing creation myths, or bronze age fiction.
Treat it like any other permit.

I would love to see gay bars next to fundamentalist Christian churches, shops selling forbidden food opposite synagogues and Hindu temples, and so on. I don't think we need to have these challenges to faiths, only that they are a very useful assertion of the principle of freedom.

Even if we must drop our street smart instincts, it is about freedom.

Posted by: Dave Ranning | Sep 27, 2010 10:30:08 AM

I am an operational atheist; walk like one . . . etc. Religious intolerance exists because of organized religions. Organized religions, by and large, are intolerant of questioners of their cant and consider members of their organizatons who do question to be heretics. They tolerate other popular religions out of mutual fear and do not hesitate to gang up on the less popular unfortunates, like atheists whom they consider the most arch of all their enemies. Intolerance is a corollary of organized religion. Politicians have known this for years and do not hesitate to take advantage of it. I am tolerant of religion because I do not give a damn about their silly crap. Your wasting your time.

Posted by: James F Traynor | Sep 27, 2010 10:51:32 AM

Muslim citizens and their families suffered the attacks on 9/11 and their aftermath right along with the rest of America.

Actually, they suffered more. Some of the families chose to hide the death of their family members on 9/11 from friends and neighbors because after all, "their people" did it. And the fact that they are still suspect even nine years after the incident, shows that they continue to pay a collective steep price for the action of extremists. Park 51/ Ground Zero Mosque should be treated exactly as any other structure that has a building permit and follows the necessary architectural guidelines.

Apart from that, I am with the authors and commenters here. Park 51 too should have no say on what other buildings go up in its vicinity just as a few years back, a Baptist church in Houston could not oust an adjacent strip club.

Posted by: Ruchira | Sep 27, 2010 12:25:05 PM

Rob & Scott,

There's very little to disagree with in what you've posted here, but I do have to wonder: what's distinctively atheist about the perspective from which you're approaching the question? You begin by asserting (correctly, in my view), that even if atheism entails disagreement with religious doctrines, it does not entail hostility to the free practice of religion -- in other words, that atheism is not incompatible with liberalism. But is this a controversial view? And, more to the point, isn't it precisely the liberal perspective you've adopted in this essay, and from which you assess the claims of the opponents of the Park 51 Complex?

About those claims and your assessments of them, I have very little to add when it comes to the first (they shouldn't have the right to build) and the third (but they can't build churches/synagogues in Saudi Arabia!!!). As for the second (they should abstain from building out of 'sensitivity'), I'm not convinced that there is a contradiction where you say there's one, and I think the attempt to cast the position as contradictory betrays a discomfort with facing, or unwillingness to face, what's behind the opposition to the mosque. If it's contradictory, in other words, we can dismiss it out of hand; it's not worthy of a hearing in the public square. Relatedly, I'm a little put off by your use of "moral coercion" -- as if you recognize that you can't put moral suasion tout court out of bounds, but this instance has to be out of bounds all the same. Surely moral coercion must mean something other than "moral suasion we don't like" -- but what could that be? Anyway, instead of a contradiction, I think there's a conflict between liberal and populist-democratic positions -- and if that's true, an appeal to equality strikes me as unlikely to convince anyone who doesn't agree already.

Thanks for posting, and it's good to see you both at 3QD. I hope it's not the last time.

Best,
Chris

Posted by: C McInerney | Sep 27, 2010 3:42:12 PM

A distinctive atheist position? I'd think it would be consistent for atheists to oppose *all* religious construction, or to oppose *no* religious construction.

What atheists wouldn't do is oppose some construction while allowing others. As privileging one religion is against atheism.

Posted by: mcd | Sep 27, 2010 11:44:35 PM

I think people should remember the Flushing Remonstrance:


Flushing Remonstrance

These people suffered persecution as a result of their tolerance and welcome of Quakers -- in New York.

Posted by: Louise Gordon | Sep 28, 2010 2:16:40 AM

1)
Symbols matter to people. The perceived (even if unfounded) celebration of the murder of thousands will cause suffering.

2)
What people believe matters. We live in a democracy. The bad ideas of our neighbors directly impinge upon our lives. We should resist bad ideas. Islam happens to be a repository of bad ideas. In conversations with our Muslim brethren we should find out what they believe, demonstrate the lack of evidence for their claims, point out the inconsistencies in their doctrines, and make clear the unnecessary human suffering that their doctrines cause; this should not be taboo. Is Islam liable for more needless human suffering than Jainism? Yes. Not all ideas are equally likely to be true. Not all ideas are equally likely to foment unnecessary human suffering. We should hold our fellow humans accountable for the bad ideas they hold. Muslims are no different. It is not intolerant to do this.

Posted by: edwin_quine | Sep 28, 2010 3:47:56 AM

Atheists? Honesetly? I think your both great writers and your article was very informitive. Inspiring too. You pulled all the answers to the questions I have been trying to find in regards to this issue. I was beading around the bush, but after reading your article I am convinced it is wrong to oppose the Mosque, and in deed the distortion of reliegion has been a problem that has plagued the human race for years. Maybe, that is why you are atheists. Being atheist would mean you didn't have to deal with all the drama people cause for themselves through religion.

Thank you for writing this article and voicing you opinion. I completely agree with you on the topic of the Mosque. Hopefully, the people who are blinded by this false perception of what is right, wake up and smell the coffee.

Posted by: Cody Price | Sep 28, 2010 9:10:43 AM

I believe that these athiests have a more clear view on the mosque than any other people. They make excellent points stating that those who oppose the Mosque are going completely against the American form of democracy and making the unfair distinctions between "them" and "us". Also, they mention the fact that its disgraceful people are accepting the terrorist's view on Islam.
Why do you two chose to be atheists?

Posted by: Alexandra Mazzarisi | Sep 28, 2010 9:16:11 AM

I totally agree with this position. It is their right to practice their religion where they want to. By being Muslim, you don't suddenly become non-american. Their beliefs are no less American than those of a Christian, a Jew or even an Atheist. Not only that but by trying to seperate ourselves from Muslims, we are somewhat creating the very things that we are so terrified by. If a Muslim man felt rejected by America but felt accepted by the Taliban, who is he more likly to side with?

Posted by: Sam F. | Sep 28, 2010 9:22:21 AM

I guess I would have an easier time empathizing with the very valid complaints about the xenophobic opposition to the so-called mosque if mainstream Islam weren't so misogynistic.

I eagerly await your analysis of the current tax cut debate in November!

Posted by: Fill | Sep 29, 2010 10:18:18 PM

*Sigh*. How can two professors profess that Islam is a religion of peace without reference to any mainstream interpretive traditions of Islam? (A quick study will reveal the awful truth that Islam has never been a religion of peace). What a nauseating insult to our intelligence.

Posted by: Michael | Mar 14, 2011 4:22:13 AM

Much debate will always circle around this topic, people are sensitive. Personally I think it's a grand idea for the rec center and that it ought to be there. There are heaps of gay bars, 'gentleman's places' and clubs all over New York some of which cause issues. Yet when a mosque for the one of the most peaceful religions is going to be build the world over reacts. Some thing as innocent as a mosque can be made into an irrational sprung of hatred. America is build for of free to practice religion, we are a melting pot of all cultures. We ought to move on and end the racism, end hate , and live in peace. Once we face that we are wrong then we can fix our problems.. So people who just judge based on religion ought to be told what they are doing is terrible , disrespectful, and isn't excepted. Yes, their were muslim extremist but they don't make up for the whole aspect. A minority is the whole population. Some Americans have to learn the difference, and face the fact Islam isn't evil.

Posted by: Bim. | Sep 13, 2011 5:52:49 PM

The location of the Mosque is not in a typical location. It is located in an area that is predominatly occupied by buisnesses. This begs the question; Is it being built simply to provoke people?

Posted by: Ashley | Sep 20, 2011 6:14:01 PM

they should build the mosque. its a rec center and shows that we wont let the terrorists win.

Posted by: julia scibetta | Sep 21, 2011 9:23:29 PM

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