August 16, 2010
On Caste Privilege
By Namit Arora
An early goal of British imperialists in India was to create a class of local elites in their own image. They would be, wrote Macaulay, ‘interpreters between us and the millions whom we govern; a class of persons Indian in blood and colour, but English in tastes, in opinions, in morals and in intellect.’ An elite class did emerge, not surprisingly from the socially dominant upper-caste Hindus of urban India.
These elites, chin-deep in caste identities, saw themselves as innately superior to other Indians, mirroring the class- and race-based prejudices of the British. No wonder they got along so well. Later, when these Indians opposed the British, they used the same language of political rights and liberalism that the Europeans preached at home but didn’t practice in their colonies. It was this elite class, led by Anglicized lawyers and bureaucrats, that succeeded the British. In the first Indian parliament in 1952, Brahmins, who account for under 5% of the population, cornered almost 25% of the directly elected seats; altogether the upper-castes, about 20% of the population, claimed over 85% of the seats.[1]
In a representative democracy, the idea of ‘representation’ is that an upper-caste Hindu man can fairly represent the interests of the lower-castes, minorities, and women. But one can persuasively argue that this did not happen in the early decades of the Indian republic. Deep disparities along caste lines remained; religious minorities grew alienated; women remained marginal as before. India was effectively a democracy of the few, by the few, for the few.
Since the 70s, India has seen the rise of caste-based politics. Built on the idea that only a member of your own (or proximate) caste can represent your interests, its primary driver was the failure of upper-caste politicians to represent the lower-castes, and the latter realizing the power of their vote. Votes began fragmenting along caste lines, not the least because—besides being central to one’s social identity—caste shaped one’s share of opportunity, deprivation, and discrimination in life.
When the lower-castes began mobilizing and putting up their own candidates, the elites grew anxious and began decrying the rise of caste-based politics and vote banks. ‘So regressive!’ they complained, ‘a betrayal of the spirit and ideals of democracy!’ But of course, with hardly an egalitarian bone in their bodies, they had played a rigged game all along. Their anxiety, above all, came from a visceral fear—fear of the ‘impure’ masses, fear of losing their privileges, fear of being overrun by the boors. In no area is this anxiety more evident than in the debate on caste-based affirmative action, aka reservations, in public sector jobs and college admissions.
Writing fifty years ago in The Wretched of the Earth, Franz Fanon lamented ‘the unpreparedness of the elite, the lack of practical ties between them and the masses, their apathy, and, yes, their cowardice at the crucial moment in the struggle.’ These elites, he wrote, ‘simultaneously resisted the insidious agenda of colonialism and paved the way for the emergence of the current struggles.’
Fanon had in mind the post-colonial elites of North Africa, but his remark is no less apt for the Indians. India needed a real program of socioeconomic justice—via, say, land reform, universal education, and fighting caste discrimination. What legislation the elites did pass they didn’t push far enough. Instead, they consolidated their domination over politics, the economy, education, cultural institutions, and the media—for instance, the richest 10% monopolize more land now than in 1951.[2] Having done quite well for itself, self-congratulation has come easy to this class. In an attempt to restore some balance, this insider, dear reader, will now relate to you its benightedness.
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Walk into a relatively nice neighborhood in, say, Ahmedabad, Pune, or Jaipur, perhaps one of the burgeoning gated communities of flats owned by professionals, public sector officials, and businessmen. This demographic will usually speak English, represent under 10% of the population but command far greater power. Notice that nearly all mailboxes have upper-caste names. The average man here might profess to be modern and secular, but don’t be fooled. His is an incipient modernity, without deep roots—more about clothes, gadgets, nuclear family, educating girls, and fewer food taboos. His idea of the individual, each with an equal human dignity, is terribly weak. Nor does he subscribe to the dignity of labor. Indeed, he would recoil at the idea of inviting his sweeper to sit on his sofa to have a chai and samosa as a fellow human. Worse, he would never have wondered why none among his servants, maids, and sweepers share his last name, or what role his caste played in getting him where he is today. What prevents such ideas from crossing his mind is a deeply internalized hierarchy—and therefore entitlement—evident in the way he makes demands on those in his employ, and the deference he expects from them and their kind.
In this social class, middle-aged members might casually observe, ‘I saw no casteism while growing up.’ Of course, it’s harder to see such things from above, analogous to the legions of men who internalize their sexism so well they don't notice it at all. This is the class that is prone to reminisce the ‘unity’ and ‘harmony’ of the olden days. Now it feels cheated by reservations. Not surprisingly, a good many have come to champion the ‘merit-only’ line (that is, only test scores should be considered) and profess to be ‘caste-blind’. The ‘caste-blind’ stance, which perpetuates caste privilege, has wide currency with those who somehow see it as totally fair and impartial.
Explain the premise of positive discrimination and see eyes roll. ‘We don’t treat them badly anymore,’ one aunty told me, ‘what are they agitating about?’ Mention the benefits of diversity and question narrow ideas of ‘merit’, only to see hateful fear mongering spew out. ‘Oye, what if a scheddu civil engineer built a bridge that collapsed?’ (‘Scheddu’ is a derogatory reduction of Scheduled Caste, the administrative term for Dalits, formerly ‘untouchables’.) ‘What if a scheddu doctor killed a patient?’ The instinct is to associate low-caste with congenital stupidity. It doesn’t occur to them that the beneficiaries of reservation have to pass the same coursework and training as all others. Besides, they have no empirical data on how many fallen bridges were built by scheddus, nor do they know that Dalit children routinely die due to discriminatory practices by ‘merit’ doctors.[3] What, if not prejudice, makes them assume that scheddus build bridges that fall, rather than corrupt upper-caste engineers who steal public funds and use inferior materials? Nor do they hesitate in sending their own under-performing kids to shady engineering and medical institutes that have proliferated—the so-called ‘capitation fee’ colleges—where the sole criteria for admission is money, not ‘merit’, including obscure colleges in the former Soviet block countries cashing-in on the obsession this class has for ‘foreign degrees’.
Awed by the pop culture that trickles down from the West, this class knows little about the rest of India, nor has anything but disdain for its tribal and folk music, dance, and drama.[4] Of much greater concern is India’s image in the West, the health of the IT sector, new consumer goods, the peril from Pakistan, emulating China. Utterly materialistic in its values, it equates education with technical training, success with money, and sneers at the arts, social sciences, and the humanities. Its nationalistic pride is now yoked to its pride in Hinduism. Members of this class may feel irked by Dalits decamping to Buddhism, Christianity, and Islam, but they know ‘the problem’ Dalits have: their problem is one of underdevelopment, to be fixed by more aggressive ‘inclusive development’. Pieties and slogans aside, the members of this class make absolutely no demands on themselves. They never look at the mirror and see that they are squarely at the heart of ‘the problem’.
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At a recent dinner party, a Brahmin friend, a graduate of the elite IIT system, criticized reservations on the grounds that they are socially divisive and instigate disharmony. I had to laugh. Isn’t the caste system all about social division, using graded notions of superior and inferior blood? Caste identities have been strong for ages; even today over 90% marry their own. If caste now also shapes political consciousness, it’s because, in part, its members share the experience of discrimination and inherited disadvantage. If the decibels have gone up, it’s because the lower-castes no longer tolerate the oppressive ‘harmony’ of the past. They want a piece of the pie, and they are seeking it via the ballot box. In another country, with the kind of inequities India has, the masses might have resorted to violent revolution long ago.
Why pursue reservations, he argued, when urbanization and industrial development are doing far better at defeating the inequities of caste. This is true up to a point, and a myth beyond. It is true that cities offer greater anonymity and a diversity of jobs unrelated to traditional caste occupations, thereby weakening many, perhaps even the worst, forms of rural casteism. An office-going Brahmin is unlikely to worry about being polluted if he brushes against a Dalit in a crowded bus, or object to eating out lest a Dalit prepared the meal. But even as many old caste abuses have vanished or weakened in the face of urbanization, others have arisen or evolved into malignant forms. Industrialization is a turbulent force working upon the caste system, but it is not in itself a socially progressive force. Introduced in a society with entrenched inequities, capital and industry build on preexisting social privileges and discrimination, as in India.[5]
As many historians of caste have noted, caste in the urban milieu has morphed to behave more like an ethnic community, whose members not only harbor notions of ‘ethnic’ distinctiveness but also a strong consciousness of rank vs. other caste communities. This continuing lack of egalitarianism then poisons urban civic life. It impacts hiring decisions; access to rental housing, health care, and public services; response from law enforcement; judicial verdicts; etc.[6] In our age of economic liberalization, even the Indian private sector oozes discrimination from all its pores. A recent and extensive study, Blocked by Caste, decisively dispels the belief that the private sector is mostly caste-blind and hires based on ‘merit’.[7] It shows that equally qualified Dalit and Muslim résumés are much less likely to get selected than upper-caste ones, and exposes other ‘hidden nuances of caste prejudice in the language of globalisation that contemporary India speaks.’[8] The obvious question this study raises is: why shouldn’t affirmative action be part of the strategy for equalizing opportunity in the private sector? It also shows that the beneficiaries of reservation can travel only so far in the presence of entrenched discrimination in public life. (Read this excellent survey of the reservations debate by Jayati Ghosh. [9])
Notably, my friend supported income- and gender-based reservations. A votary of a technocratic idea of ‘merit’, he was nevertheless willing to trade some ‘merit’ for other social goods, except when it came to caste. He saw the disability of poverty and gender, but minimized the disability of caste, refusing to see how common it is even in urban life, let alone in rural India, where most Indians live. I wondered if he had ever really pondered the sting of casteism, or what Indian society might look like from Dalit perspectives, urban and rural. He seemed to embody all the ignorance, doublethink, and moral myopia of the social class we both belonged to. I saw in him the same empathy deficit that I had been ashamed to discover within myself.
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It is often said that caste is to India what race is to America. Yet, the attitudes of the dominant social class in the two countries couldn’t be more different (it is instructive to compare them without subscribing to a singular conception of modernity). Since at least the 60s, debate on racial prejudice has been mainstream in America. Civic institutions began combating it as a social evil; whites confronted other whites in the public square;[10] Hollywood, the media, and the elites made it uncool; law enforcement cracked the whip on race crimes; diversity and multiculturalism became priorities. Whites widely read black authors who write about their social milieus. Blacks are highly visible in popular culture, including sports, music, and films, and are fully integrated in the military. White majorities routinely elect black mayors, senators, and governors; a politician can be destroyed by the merest racial slur (recall the ‘macaca’ incident?).
Not so in India. Narendra Modi, Chief Minister of Gujarat, continues to thrive after calling the Dalits ‘mentally retarded children’ who gain ‘spiritual experience’ from manual scavenging. The media has little interest or insight into Dalit lives, nor hires low-caste journalists.[11] Major atrocities against Dalits still go unreported. Law enforcement is often indifferent or worse. There is no effective prosecution for discrimination in employment and housing. A Dalit politician can’t get a majority of upper-caste votes even in South Mumbai. Even among those few elites who read books, how many have read a single novel or memoir by a Dalit? In what is perhaps the most diverse country in the world, there is no commitment to diversity in the elite institutions that decide what is worthy art, music, and literature, or what is the content of history textbooks. In book after book of stories for children, both the protagonist and the implicit audience are elite and upper-caste.[12] Much the same is true of sitcoms, soap operas, and commercials on TV. Dalits are invisible from all popular culture that gets any airtime. The Indian army still has many upper-caste-only regiments. There is nothing like an Indian ACLU. Or a Dalit history month on public TV, or exhibits in museums, that seek to educate the upper-castes about a long and dark chapter of their past (and present). Unless a sizable proportion of elites, benumbed by privilege, open their eyes and learn to see both within and without, can there be much hope?
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Also consider reading my three related articles from earlier this year:
- The Blight of Hindustan: a brisk overview of the caste system—its origins, spread, and some historical attitudes and debates.
- Joothan: A Dalit’s Life: a review of a memoir by an ‘untouchable’ starting in the 1950s in rural Uttar Pradesh.
- The Dance of Indian Democracy: Why did democracy take root in India against all odds? What are some of its peculiar features?
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Notes:
- Rajendra Vora, Suhas Palshikar, ‘Indian Democracy: Meanings and Practices’, Sage Publications, 2004, p 25 (OBCs got 10%, Muslims 2%).
- Manpreet Sethi, ‘Land Reform in India: Issues and Challenges.’
- Sanghmitra S. Acharya, ‘Access to Health Care and Patterns of Discrimination: A Study of Dalit Children in Selected villages of Gujarat and Rajasthan’, 2010 (download).
- An example comes from Professor Subramanium, Chennai Academy of Music, who said the following during a classical music recital: ‘There is folk music and classical music. Carnatic music is scientificallv organized, folk music is not so ... people who are not properly trained just sing out of emotion, enthusiasm. Folk music can be sung by any child. Quacks! Carnatic is not like this, you need a talent.’ (source)
- Amy Chua, ‘World on Fire’, a very good study of many Asian, African, and Latin American countries (not India but lessons apply) that shows how neoliberal economics can worsen ethnic strife. Here is a review.
- Such crippling negative discrimination can stymie most positive discrimination policies. But even for the blacks in the US, whose situation today is much better than that of Dalits, a ‘results gap’ continues to exist. This article by Orlando Patterson in the Nation explains why.
- Madhura Swaminathan, ‘Caste & the labour market’, The Hindu, Mar 9, 2010. Among older studies is one by MN Panini, who showed that during the 'permit raj' era, the private sector was far from caste neutral or ‘merit based’ and routinely tapped into its caste networks.
- Latha Jishnu, ‘The economics of caste inequity’, Business Standard, Dec 18, 2009.
- Jayati Ghosh, ‘Case for Caste Based Quotas in Higher Education’, EPW, June 17, 2006.
- A terrific example here is Robert Jensen. Check out his writings on race and white privilege.
- Siddharth Varadarajan, ‘Caste matters in the Indian media’, The Hindu, June 3, 2006.
- Deeptha Achar and Deepa Sreenivas, ‘Storybooks for a Plural World’, Himal Southasian, May 2010. Here is another article from 2001 on the bias in many school textbooks in UP.
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Source: Mahabharata and the Caste System.
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Comments
Namit,
Another eloquent testament in your quest for social justice. I will never forget the article about Joothan and Valmiki's heroic life.
I am not sure things are all that different here, however, ACLU or no. Among some people, recognition and upholding of universal human rights can be dismissed as being politically correct. Justice advances in spite of them.
Posted by: Louise Gordon | Aug 16, 2010 4:35:29 PM
I agree. An eloquent piece that's hard to argue with. But surely it's a stretch to expect the media that remained largely silent on Modi's complicity in the post-Godhra pogrom against the Muslims to get worked up over a crack about "retarded children."
Posted by: The Cleaner | Aug 16, 2010 5:47:19 PM
So caught up you are in your own narrative that you forget that Narendra Modi himself is dalit. Talking about a low caste politician not being able to be elected from South Mumbai is intellectually dishonest if you can't discuss entire states like Gujarat and UP electing dalit politicians as powerful chief ministers. You choose to believe your own prejudiced take on Indian society and label it as castiest without dispassionately looking at the evidence. Nothing but a piece that panders to Western stereotypes about India.
Posted by: Anon | Aug 16, 2010 10:26:04 PM
What a nice piece, so beautifully written. Thank you Namit.
Posted by: Alber | Aug 16, 2010 11:15:54 PM
@anon: i'm not sure why this would matter, but modi is not dalit, but o.b.c. :
http://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/a-letter-to-narendra-modi/
i thought this was a fair summary of values and attitudes towards caste in contemporary india, pre as well as post liberalization. and the comparisons with the united states are illuminating, so long as we don't see them as binding: race and caste are analogous but different, and these two societies are caught up in different cycles of urban, social and economic change.
what i think merits some further discussion is how inextricable caste systems have been from land tenure and from other modes of production including nomadic pastoralism and hunting-gathering in denuding forests. it is only to the extent that all those modes of production have been giving way to mechanization and informationalization that there is the prospect of caste mobility, fragmentation, realignment, reimagination. this is the reason why aunties have no arguments in favor of caste hierarchy these days, unlike, for example, in bankim chandra's time.
Posted by: Aditya Dev Sood | Aug 16, 2010 11:54:39 PM
Anon,
To add to Aditya's clarification, Modi, an OBC, more than subscribes to the Hindutva ideology of the Sangh Parivar's Brahmin leaders. And he has thrived by further demonizing the Muslims as the enemy of a militant Hindu order (see this documentary film). His verbal abuse of Dalits is loosely like—and as objectionable as—a mixed-race politician in the US subscribing to notions of white supremacy and calling African-Americans mentally retarded. (That said, The Cleaner has a point!)
As for Dalits and South Mumbai, my point was that Dalit politicians do not win upper-caste majorities in even the supposedly modern / enlightened parts of the country (unlike the blacks who routinely win white majorities in the US). Where Dalits have won, as in UP, it wouldn't have been possible without their own demographic heft (and shrewd political alliances).
>You choose to believe your own prejudiced take on Indian society and label it as castiest without dispassionately looking at the evidence
Given your love for the evidence, perhaps you will find time to watch this 2007 documentary film, India Untouched: Stories of a People Apart. The 2-hour film is on youtube in 11 parts (you may well consider this a blessing; it is painful to watch in one go). Here they are:
One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, Seven, Eight, Nine, Ten, Eleven
Posted by: Namit | Aug 17, 2010 1:26:33 AM
Even though America has worked hard to confront the black vs. white aspect of race, it still fails for other minorities.
Perhaps the Dalits of India can be compared to the Asians of America.
Where racism against them isn't taken as seriously because they are seen as the "model minority."
For example, you said the 'macaca' incident destroyed a politician, but McCain using the world 'gook' turned out to be no big deal.
I'm sure if he used a racial slur for African Americans his career would be over.
So while America has dealt with the race issue for a long time, it still has a long way to go.
And if India is just starting to confront it, then it will also take a long time.
Posted by: Jake L. | Aug 17, 2010 11:46:19 AM
Elite class originated from the migration of Scythians(Aryans) from Caspian Sea Basin .I recommend a sincere reading of the great book Annals & Antiquities of Rajasthan by Col. James Todd & History of Rajputs by Capt. A.H Bingley( 18 to get a fair idea on the subject of elite class & their contribution to the Country . The Elite class saved what is now India from horrific invasion of God fearing Hindus by Barbaric Islamic warriors of Persia & Samarkand who destroyed ,raped ,converted & married by force by taking one daughter ( Dola )from each Hindu house .
Posted by: Acharya Drone | Aug 17, 2010 1:34:36 PM
The Ancient India class system was fair & focused on development with proper Education & Work allocation ( better model than what is preached in Modern day Elite Business Schools ).The system gave rise to the great scripts (Vedas) , Indus valley Civilization & oldest University in India . Unfortunately the strength of caste based society was turned into a destructive caste based politics . This happened in post Independence in mid 80’s (Mandal commission report) resulting in academic Chaos in India .Quota were raised for class based reservations (politics) to the elite Schools for 3000 admissions against 10 million students .These Elite college snobs became worse than Elite class of India with a high ego discriminating & mapping Intelligence on a scale .These IIT graduates(Quota + Non Quota) never contributed in the development & growth of the country after graduation . Instead they became economic criminals & liability to the minority tax paying urban society by using tax payers funds to fly to developed world .
Posted by: Acharya Drone | Aug 17, 2010 1:35:05 PM
They had only ambition to migrate to the Developed World after exploiting all resources of a poor country like India to earn a fat Dollar salary . They are to be blame for falling structures because they never contributed towards the growth of the country . They were self contained & pathetic .Most of these over performing kids needed a Psychiatric treatment because having worked for 30 years or more in Developed world they could not become Americans & Europeans . The guilt of non performance & non contribution to the great country like India made them turn into sick human beings who believed in destroying Modern India’s image by showing Slums Dogs , Snake Charmers & Dalits in Hollywood to earn their living . It is important to view the true & balanced picture of India. It very easy to criticize but extremely difficult to contribute .
Posted by: Acharya Drone | Aug 17, 2010 1:35:52 PM
Hindutva is quite anti-caste, isn't it? Does it have low-caste roots?
Posted by: Sagredo | Aug 17, 2010 7:19:58 PM
Well, "Acharya Drone" is here to defend "the strength of caste based society". For the uninitiated, his pseudonym is inspired by Dronacharya, a Brahmin teacher in Mahabharata who has become for many low-castes a symbol of the oppressive social biases and caste prejudices of certain epic heroes. Drone on Acharya!
Sagredo,
Hindutva almost entirely has upper-caste roots, with an anti-caste stance on paper (a political strategy?). What does this mean? An interesting view comes from Kancha Ilaiah (see third Q/A). I think the trouble is that simultaneously, Hindutva glorifies an idealized Hindu past (not unlike "Acharya Drone"), the authority of the scriptures, and a core pantheon of Brahminical gods and customs. Together with the actual behavior of its member organizations (RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal), Hindutava continues to not, in effect, challenge hierarchy or patriarchy (on the contrary). After all, can one be anti-caste while preserving much of the supporting infrastructure? For instance, Hindutva ideologues are not likely to see Dronacharya as a villain, or criticize The Laws of Manu.
Posted by: Namit | Aug 18, 2010 12:07:54 AM
Ignoring amusing shallow remarks & pseudo views on the subject , it is important to list & understand the merits & demerits of any system(Caste) . Every system is self evolving & terminating . Every system has a structure to work effectively. Every system leaves some residues .Caste system is a social structure which became the back bone of ancient civilization of India .Archeological evidence proves that this system was impeccable & perfect . The period had a perfect alignment & synchronization of one great religion Hinduism (not Hindutva ) with one great social system to result in one great absolute civilization (Indus ,Takshila ,Nalanda ,Vijaynagaram etc. ) .
Hinduism ,Sanskrit script , Arithmetic ,Astronomy , Medicine , Yoga , Vedas doesn’t need glorification by a petite human .For some life is very short to understand the accomplishments of India . The first known use of special glyphs for the decimal digits that includes the indubitable appearance of a symbol for the digit zero, a small circle, appears on a stone inscription found at the Chaturbhuja Temple at Gwalior in India, dated 876 AD.There are many documents on copper plates, with the same small o in them, dated back as far as the sixth century AD, but their authenticity may be doubted.
The Hindu-Arabic numerals and the positional number system were introduced around 500 AD, and in 825 AD, it was introduced by a Persian scientist, Al-Khwarizmi, in Al-Khwarizmi's book on arithmetic. This book synthesized Greek and Hindu knowledge and also contained his own fundamental contribution to mathematics and science including an explanation of the use of zero.
It was only centuries later, in the 12th century, that the Arabic numeral system was introduced to the Western world through Latin translations of his Arithmetic.
Hinduism & caste system needs extensive research & study . Unfortunately ,today after independence following new empirical have evolved :
1.Hinduism + Politics = Hindutva in India
2.Cast System (Dalits +O.B.C & Converted Muslims ) + Politics = Democracy in India
3. Elite class + Govt. funded Education = Immigration to U.S from India
4. Shallow blogs + Slums + Oppressed + Pantheons = Critics on India
Posted by: Acharya Drone | Aug 18, 2010 2:09:15 AM
Fascinating piece of writing. I interviewed the publisher of Penguin India a few months ago, Ravi Singh, who tipped that Dalit writing was to be the next big literary movement. Already, Penguin has signed some Dalit writers.
Posted by: desiderata | Aug 19, 2010 2:17:43 AM
Thank you Namit for this article. Like most proud Indians, Mr. Drone Acharya starts singing the praise of glorious Indian past and avert his eyes from its atrocities.
Posted by: Arun Mukherjee | Aug 20, 2010 5:10:36 PM
So many authors have written so much about caste, but nothing has changed, the educated youth in particular are more castiest than their forefathers. The trouble is caste feeling is fed along with mothers milk
Posted by: Amudhan nattamai | Aug 21, 2010 2:12:56 AM
Interesting article. However, in your effort to make the 'dominant class' in India look as bad as possible, you have seriously misrepresented the situation in the U.S. In fact, race-baiting in the U.S. is alive and well, mostly through by using code words. E.g., the recent housing bubble and economic collapse has been blamed on blacks and Hispanics by white right-wing ideologues (Limbaugh, Beck and others). They routinely claim that the Community Reinvestment Act which helps minorities buy homes was the source of the bubble, even though it was a minor factor. There is a very good case to be made that the Republican party, one of only 2 parties in the U.S., is systemically racist, despite its token black head. I believe that it does not currently have a single black congressperson or senator.
The other fact that you ignore is that reservations for dalits in India may be unique in the world, and far exceed anything done to help blacks in the U.S. Affirmative action in the U.S. is not a quota, as reservations are in India, and in any case are applied at a very low level for college admissions. These affirmative action admissions are frequently challenged in the courts and appear to be on the decline. There are no hard 50% quotas for admissions into many educational institutions (including medicine) as there are in India - anyone who suggested such a thing in the U.S. would be tarred and feathered and run out of the country. Blacks in the U.S., as you may or may not know, are incarcerated at far higher rates than whites, and for much longer, often for the same crime (smoking crack vs. doing cocaine).
You should also know that the current economic downturn has hit the black middle-class disproportionately hard, returning many of its members to the working poor or the unemployed. The 90's were boom times. As unemployment in the U.S. stays high, gloves are coming off, and racial tensions will rise.
The most common argument against affirmative action in the U.S. is that current generations had no part in the injustice committed by past generations. The same argument could be made by a poor 'upper caste' kid in a small town in India, whose father makes a minimal living.
It is astonishing to outsiders, and a great credit to Indian society, that Indians who have committed no crime and have oppressed no one are still be willing to suffer discrimination in order that those oppressed in the past are given preference. The sheer extent of 'positive discrimination' in India (50% of seats in many medical and engineering colleges completely out of reach of the 'upper castes' or 'middle castes' no matter how poor) is unprecedented in the world, to the best of my knowledge.
Overall, your article is naive as regards the U.S., and seriously inadequate as regards the Indian situation.
Posted by: ZipMeUp | Aug 21, 2010 1:36:06 PM
ZipMeUp isn't wrong to bring out that matters are not so progressed in the US as one might conclude from reading just Namit Arora's article, but I do think that there's a bit of "overcorrection" by virtue of not comparing the relative demographics. Whites in the US are a significant majority while forward castes are a smallish minority. The proportional scale of (historical) political dispossession in India is on an entirely different scale to that in the USA. There's also no room in the US Constitution for a variety of set-asides extant in India, so that they were not enacted was essentially a given rather than a straightforward result of the US elites' approach toward countering anti-minority bigotry. In any case, failures of US elites do not excuse those of elites anywhere else.
Posted by: Nato | Aug 21, 2010 5:18:32 PM
ZipMeUp,
I never said or implied that the race situation in the US is as good as it should be. That would be foolish for much remains to be done. However, as this article relates, think about the distance the US has traveled in the last 5-6 decades, largely due to a massive shift in the racial prejudices of a significant proportion of whites, some of whom even joined the Civil Rights movement.
Nothing even remotely approaching that kind of conscious soul-searching has happened among the privileged classes in Indian society—the subject of this essay. Among them, there is widespread denial about even the presence of a problem. Their blindness is of an altogether different scale and register, flowing from the lack of even basic egalitarian instincts and granting of equal dignity to others. I often cite the example of the black janitor in my US office, who is treated with respect and is seen by most as a fellow human doing a poorly paying / undesirable job. Contrast that with a Bhangi, a Dalit cleaner of toilets, and the lens through which the caste elites see him in India. If you are suggesting an equivalence, you are discrediting your bid to be taken seriously.
In The Dance of Indian Democracy, I looked at the political and demographic factors that I believe led to the rise of reservations in India—it happened despite massive and continued opposition from the upper castes. Further, in the US, the scaling back of affirmative action (here is a brief history)—greatly overdone in my view—happened after prejudices had much reduced, after a notable black middle class had emerged, and as this article relates, after "Liberalism ... made racial homogeneity uncool and unacceptable" — so the diversity argument began doing the work of affirmative action (i.e., compensatory justice).
Posted by: Namit | Aug 21, 2010 7:22:06 PM
You lose a fair amount of credibility when you paint a percentage of the population with such a broad brush. The very least you could do is acknowledge that not everyone who belongs to this "upper class" acts and thinks in the way that you portray.
Posted by: Tejas | Aug 23, 2010 8:34:04 PM
Excellent work Namit I've read and enjoyed everything you've posted on this site. You're a fine debater with a sense of decency that moves me. Thanks especially for the introduction to Valmiki and his autobiography _Joothan_. He is a Great Spirit and true hero. He also represents a disturbing trend. In recent speeches Zbigniew Brzenziski has been warning the global elite that 'the growing demand for human dignity will not be satisfied by consumerism' - clearly a matter of profound concern to them.
Here in the USA surreality reigns. On the news today we were told that a previously unknown bacteria is eating away all that nasty BP oil in the Gulf of Mexico. Magic! It's morning in America again!
They're getting pretty desperate alright.
Posted by: mary | Aug 26, 2010 3:23:54 AM
wow its so nice to see many responses that are anti casteist.Does it have to do with the responders being from out of india- U.S.-.The responses to any criticism of caste is just the reverse in India here there are more people defending caste system than against it.Seems like the society we live in also has a big influence and not just education(al qualifications)
Posted by: dalitfreedom | Sep 21, 2010 1:42:09 PM
This loathsome concept of caste is in the bloodstream of all Indians, including both upper-castes and Dalits. Thus, trying to eradicate caste, the bane of Indian society, is an exercise in futility.
Posted by: Purush | Mar 31, 2011 12:30:17 AM
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