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November 28, 2008

The terrorists attacked my city because of its wealth

Suketu Mehta in The Guardian:

Mehta The Taj was born out of a slight: because a man was turned away from a fancy hotel. When the prominent Parsi industrialist Jamshetji Tata was refused entrance into Watson's hotel in the 19th century because he was a native, he swore revenge, and built the Taj in 1903. It is less a hotel than a proving-ground for the ego. The Taj lobby and its adjoining toilets are where you test your self-worth; theoretically, anyone can come in out of the heat and sit in the plush lobby, or relieve themselves in the gleaming toilets. But you need that inner confidence to project to the numerous gatekeepers, the toilet attendants; you need to first convince yourself that you belong there.

The terrorists who swarmed the hotel on Wednesday ignored the gatekeepers, or shot them dead. They marched into the lobby with confidence, and in a rage. If, as seems likely, they are Muslims, then they are only the latest manifestation of the original sin of modern south Asia: the partition of the subcontinent into India and Pakistan.

India has been congratulated, and has congratulated itself, for not supplying recruits to al-Qaida. India's 150 million Muslims are different, it was thought. During partition, they voted with their feet; until recently, there were more Muslims in India than in Pakistan. But Muslims are poorer, and less educated, than other Indians. Urban Muslims have a poverty rate of 38% - much higher than any other segment of the population, including the lower castes. The 2002 anti-Muslim pogroms in Gujarat, just north of Bombay, made many Muslims think that if the state could not or would not protect them, they would have to take matters into their own hands.

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Apparently, the Taj Mahal was not built because Jamsetji Tata was refused entry into the all-White Watson's Hotel. It was built after a friend complained that the standards at Watson's were poor. The Taj Mahal Hotel was Jamsetji Tata's gift to the city he loved, as much as the Taj Mahal (in Agra) was Shah Jahan's gift to the wife he loved. He wanted his city to have a world-class hotel. Russi M Lala (who is Jamsetji Tata's biographer) has a very nice article in The Hindu on the history of this fabulous hotel (including a clarification of the famous Mumbai urban legend on the Taj's Italian architect committing suicide after discovering that his hotel had been built the wrong way around). Please do check out the story by following the link below:
http://asianwindow.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/mumbais-monument-to-love/

Posted by: Namita Bhandare | Nov 29, 2008 2:18:39 AM

I really feel proud of Suketu Mehta when he claims Mumbai to be his city. If every Bombayite felt it that way, we wouldn't have been mute witnesses to this bloody event. It was this essence of belonging to the city that made it the most lovable and livable cities in the world. Ever since the politicians, both elected and self-appointed, managed to polarise us based on our forefathers' state of origin, we lost the heaven and it became a haven for all the unscrupulous elements of our society. We could never recognise the unknown foriegn faces amongst us or willy nilly assisted them carry out the most audacious attack. As long as we remain polarised in our outlook, we will remain the softest targets for all the lumpen elements of this country and hardcore terrorists of this world. Come on guys, unite and fight this internal menace so that we can stop the Ghaznis of the world invading and marauding us.

Posted by: suresh | Nov 29, 2008 4:20:49 AM

I loved reading Suketu Mehta's wonderful book on Bombay-Maximum City.
There is an orgy of whodunnit discussions on the media--which incessantly seem to have found a culprit in Pakistan but not a motive. Yet I haven't heard anyone even begin to consider any other options such as maosists, naxhalites--Bombay mafias or rogue elements of the indian security services or military--16 or 17 of whom were implicated and jailed for the train bombings of the Samjota express between Pakistan and India two years ago and whose case was just about to come up in court and they were being pursued relentlessly by the anti-terrorism commmissioner Hermant Karkare and also the Police commissioner both of whom refused to bend to any political pressure to let this case go. These two men were killed in this week's attacks in Bombay. In each and every terrorist attack in India in the last decade or more the finger is always pointed at Pakistan and then it turns out to be a home grown violent group within India.

Posted by: maniza | Nov 30, 2008 2:22:15 PM

maniza,

Your Pakistani nationalism is showing. Groups like LeT and JeM operate traning camps in Pakistani-controlled Kashmir, with at least the tacit understanding of the Pakistani state. LeT and/or JeM were definitely involved in attacks on the Indian state in the past ten years. The most recent attack showed extremely good training, and that would be difficult to obtain in India.

It's difficult to deny Pakistan's involvement in a number of terrorist groups of the past twenty years. Maybe the new government wants to turn over a new leaf, but it has to reckon with the past.

I don't understand why Pakistanis want so much to deny Pakistani state involvement in these terrorist groups. After all, these groups are killing Pakistanis as well. It seems like the most effective way to combat them is to end all tacit support by government elements for them.

Posted by: Hektor Bim | Dec 1, 2008 9:54:31 AM

Hektor,
Please go down the list of the attacks in India over the last decade and look at the motives and the perpetrators of those crimes. Is it so impossible and wrong and so "nationalistic to suggest that there is a need for cooler heads to prevail and that all options should be considered-before jumping to immediate conclusions. Refusing to consider other options--isn't that erring on the side of someone's nationalism? This is an awful nightmarish situation--which can go very wrong and very quickly--it might be best to consider all possible motives and options and to keep in mind the events and context of the weeek before and what was to follow this attack ie, further peace talks between Pakistan and India--as well as the upcoming case of those implicated in the Samjota express--just to name two.
Tell me is that such a wrong thing to do? Why would you deny this course of action--You seem to be as convinced of Pakitan's culpability as I am not convinced of it. So why not examine the motives of many more then the usual suspects? I have no problem at all with things being proven otherwise--I'll be saddened even more then I am, but I won't have a problem with it, as I am having at the moment with this speed and zeal for tarring and feathering Pakistan.

Posted by: maniza | Dec 1, 2008 1:43:41 PM

maniza,

You made a specific and very strong claim:

"In each and every terrorist attack in India in the last decade or more the finger is always pointed at Pakistan and then it turns out to be a home grown violent group within India."

I don't think this claim is supportable. It's possible that the current attacks didn't use men, material, or training from Pakistan (not necessarily sanctioned by Pakistan's government), but other attacks have. The attack on the embassy in Afghanistan (which is Indian sovereign territory) for example, was almost certainly carried out with substantial aid from Pakistan.

I am not convinced of Pakistani involvement in the attacks. There needs to be more time and more direct evidence than has appeared yet. I think it is likely, though that doesn't mean there was Pakistani government involvement in the attacks, which is a different thing entirely.

But categorically saying that there is no Pakistani involvement seems to be jumping the gun in the other direction, though I can understand it. After all, if it is proven that the Pakistani government (even if only rogue elements) were involved in this attack, it would likely lead to war.

Posted by: Hektor Bim | Dec 1, 2008 4:39:13 PM

What is supportable and not supportable remains to be seen. I am not trying to convince you of anything except of the idea that perhaps a very peaceful notion that jumping to conclusions when in the past they've proven wrong is not such a good idea. I'm not trying to make the case for Pakistan or trying to convince you of a case for Pakistan. Why should I or anyone from Pakistan have to do that? Why should Pakistan have to be on the defensive? Why don't you try to convince me of Pakistan's involvement--to the point that you can start to fantasize about this leading to a war. A horrible, hideous crime has occured in Bombay--people have been murdered. A clear motive needs to be established and to me its not so clear at all and not even likely. It seems to be more so for you. If there is any jumping of the gun going on here its this convinced attitude of Pakistan's involvement and fantasiizing about WAR--finding an excuse to attack Pakistan. Disgraceful.

Posted by: maniza | Dec 1, 2008 6:06:58 PM

maniza,

I'm not fantasizing about a war. Why is everyone on this site so quick to impugn bad motives on people they disagree with?

You're seriously going to claim that the Pakistani government has had clean hands for the last twenty years, has no history of supporting terrorist groups for its own ends, and has nothing to be concerned about?

Posted by: Hektor Bim | Dec 1, 2008 9:34:17 PM

There's a lot of this nervous attitude in the Pakistani press (as available on the Internet) right now, lots of "here the Indians go again with their unjust finger-pointing."

I don't understand it. Don't understand the unseemly haste to deny before even one verifiable fact is in, don't understand the very basis for the hot denials - when it's clear to everyone that Pakistan is home to thousands if not hundreds of thousands of jihadis, when it's obvious that Pakistan itself faces a grave security threat from them which often spills over into bloodshed, etc.

What is to be gained by denial on this pathological scale? Is there some solace - which I can't see - to it?

What happens if (it looks like when) these killers are demonstrated to be Pakistanis, who rec'd training in Pakistan? What does the argument become in that case? Still a Mossad-Hindu conspiracy?


Signed,

BombaytoNYCtoGoa

Posted by: NYCtoGoa | Dec 2, 2008 2:51:02 AM

The Pakistan Govt, such as it is, appears to have incomplete control of its territory, so there may be little point in attacking it, even if this latest filthy attack was launched from Pakistani territory.
There can be no doubt that attacks like these are designed to provoke retaliation against Moslem countries and communities, so in turn egging more Moslems on to show 'solidarity' with the jehadists and continue the snowball effect.

Posted by: aguy109 | Dec 2, 2008 7:30:04 AM

what about the immediate accusation at a "pathological scale" of one nationality and one religion?

Posted by: maniza | Dec 2, 2008 9:06:48 AM

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