October 26, 2007
Leiter on Joseph Massad on Homosexuality in the Middle East
Leiter over at Brian Leiter's Law School Reports:
In the case of his latest attack on Professor Massad of Columbia University, Professor Bernstein claims that, like the Iranian President, Massad denies that there are homosexuals...
My suspicion, upon reading this, was that Massad's thesis was inspired by Foucault's thesis in The History of Sexuality that homosexuality does not mark out a "kind" of human being, and thus had nothing at all to do with the bizarre delusions of the Iranian President. Since the article in question is accessible from my university computer, this was easy enough to confirm. Foucault's History of Sexuality is cited in notes 45 and 73 in Massad's article, and the accompanying text makes clear that Massad is endorsing Foucault's thesis. (Indeed, the longest section of the article has its own subtitle, "Incitement to Discourse," a phrase taken directly from Foucault, as Massad acknowledges.) Foucault's (and Massad's) thesis does not deny that there exists same-sex contact by numerous individuals in the Arab world (as Bernstein manages to note, though seems not to understand its import); rather, it denies that engaging in same-sex contact marks out a kind of person about whom there are meaningful, lawful (or law-like) generalizations to be made (e.g., that homosexuals are mentally ill; or that homosexual men had bad relations with their father; or that homosexuals only have sex with people of the same sex, and so on). The "kind" of person we call the "homosexual," and with whom certain traits are said to be correlated, is really a social and cultural construct, not a set of interlinked facts about sexual identity that hold invariant across societies and cultures.
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So, to pat myself on the back, or toot my own horn, or whatever metaphor you'd like, I said the same thing over a week ago: http://3quarksdaily.blogs.com/3quarksdaily/2007/10/the-logic-of-jo.html.
But I don't have my own blog, and I'm not personally responsible for ranking philosophy departments across the country, etc. etc.
Posted by: Jonathan | Oct 26, 2007 2:07:28 PM
Hot dog, Jonathan!!! You are indeed correct if Brian Leiter is correct. Goodness, he'll be a great lawyer.
I've been reading that homosexuality is thought of very differently in the Arab world and in the non-Arab Muslim world than it is in the West. Did not Gore Vidal remark decades ago that there was no homosexuality, only homosexual acts? At the time, I felt that was like saying there was no hunger, only luncheon. But maybe Gore Vidal was drawing from a non-Western perspective, a newsy thing to do back then if you weren't Alan Watts. Based on what I've been reading, however, I would have to say that homosexual acts are not regarded in the Arab world as morally neutral, only that /some/ people who perform them are neither punished for them nor obliged to identify as homosexuals on their account. For /some/ people, it's only desire, convenience and need -- which have nothing to do with anything else, certainly not with sexual preference.
What about the people in the Arab and non-Arab Muslim worlds who do suffer for the homosexual acts they've been party to, however? Well, I was talking to an Afghan friend... It seems if you take the male role in a homosexual act (this used to be called being a sodomite), then you're still probably OK. But if you take the female role (that of the "catamite"), you might find yourself an outcast. I repeat, I didn't read this in The National Enquirer, I heard it from a friend who was feeling frank. If she was feeling frank and being accurate, then this observation shows the usual link between the rights of women and the rights of people, including women, who perform same-sex sex acts.
It is a bit much, to expect everyone in every village in Central Asia, Western Asia and the Arabian Peninsula to hold to the niceties of Queer Theory. But when some people suffer scorn, exclusion and persecution for same-sex sex and others do not, it is also a bit much for a follower of Edward Said to insist on a reading of the issue that lies outside the question of human rights, concerning itself only with understandings one can achieve inside Foucault -- roomy space though that is.
Posted by: Elatia Harris | Oct 26, 2007 2:59:41 PM
Most of the United States (outside of a few urbanized gay "ghettos") is exactly the same as the Arab world, which is to say that men everywhere are having sex with each other but not "identifying" as gay or homosexual. The only difference is the degree to which this is acknowledged, and this can range from outright denial to tacit acceptance (which can make certain places like Afghanistan seem oddly accepting of homosexuality, particularly in comparison to say, your average American suburb). This is a constant in history, which is what Foucault recognized as much as Vidal and -- for that matter --your average married guy cruising for a hook-up on Craigslist.
Posted by: thegayrecluse | Oct 26, 2007 5:12:21 PM
Your argument makes no sense. The examples you cite of a "kind of person" following your Foucault citation (as if Foucault's opinion is anything other than one man's, no better) -- each of these kinds are socially imposed sanctions or explanations of homosexual persons or behaviors, they are not about kinds of persons.
Posted by: curious sampler | Oct 26, 2007 7:51:21 PM
Your argument makes no sense. The examples you cite of a "kind of person" following your Foucault citation (as if Foucault's opinion is anything other than one man's, no better) -- each of these kinds are socially imposed sanctions or explanations of homosexual persons or behaviors, they are not about kinds of persons.
Posted by: curious sampler | Oct 26, 2007 7:52:41 PM
An excellent article about gay life in Saudi Arabia:
The kingdom in the closet
'Sodomy is punishable by death in Saudi Arabia, but gay life flourishes there. Why it is "easier to be gay than straight" in a society where everyone, homosexual and otherwise, lives in the closet'
http://www.yawningbread.org/apdx_2007/imp-305.htm
Posted by: alip | Oct 27, 2007 9:49:38 AM
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