September 25, 2006
A Case of the Mondays: Kingdom Coming is Optimistic
Crossposted to Abstract Nonsense
The account of Dominionism given in Kingdom Coming, featuring a massive umbrella of Christian fundamentalist organizations united in their drive to establish a theocracy in the United States and by extension the world, sounds like a very depressing story. This is at least what every review I've found says: the reviewers who agree with Michelle Goldberg call her vision chilling, and the few who do not say she is excessively alarmist.
The truly chilling thing about Kingdom Coming is that it's actually fairly mild and optimistic. Goldberg pauses every few pages to say that no, the United States will probably not become theocratic, because of the strength of its laws and Constitution and legal system. And she concentrates only on local fundamentalism, without talking about its mutually-reinforcing connections to warmongering and state surveillance, both staples of totalitarianism. She suggests that the gradual discrediting of American neoconservatism will lead to a resurgence of a more populist brand of fundamentalism, complete with Populist-style anti-Semitism. However, apart from that she says nothing about the intersection of neoconservatism and fundamentalism, except for one remark toward the end about a war between Christianity and Islam.
In fact, the most worrying future trends are the ones the book spends little to no time on. The formation of the Dominionist front is crucial to expose, and so is the stealth network of would-be theocrats: Rushdoony and Christian Reconstructionism, Ralph Reed's comment about painting his face and operating under cover of darkness, the wink to the religious right inherent in Bush's “compassionate conservative” comment. The book's greatest success is in documenting that network without lapsing into conspiracy theories.
But at the same time, it is just as important to explore the analogy between Dominionism and other totalitarian ideologies further, and quoting Hannah Arendt's Origins of Totalitarianism is not enough. The United States has a democratic tradition, but it also has a tradition of ignoring civil liberties whenever it's at war; now that the view of anti-terrorism as a protracted war has taken root among most of its people, liberal democracy is in especial danger. And while Goldberg is right that most Americans may not want a Christian Taliban, most Germans never wanted the Holocaust, either—most never even voted for the Nazis in free elections.
To look at the prospects of a totalitarian ideology, it's good to look at the factors that raise one to power, and, separately, the factors that keep one afloat. Economic depression certainly helps extremists come to power, especially if liberal democracy is seen as the source of the problem. The most plausible depression scenario in the United States revolves around defaulting on the debt; this will likely be viewed as the fault of excessive government spending, but the popular solution will likely be gutting social spending rather than raising taxes or curtailing military spending. Alone such a scenario would favor corporatists rather than fundamentalists, but not only are the two groups mutually reinforcing, but also the poverty that will ensue will be a breeding ground for religious evangelism masquerading as charity. Religious charities use poverty to their advantage everywhere in the world; that's how Hamas and Hezbollah are not right-wing fringe parties in their respective nations.
Goldberg does in fact mention this scenario in passing, although she takes it in a somewhat different direction: she posits a more domestically-minded fundamentalism building on economic populism. This is plausible, but is not how totalitarian governments came to power in countries with strong ties between corporations and conservatives: Germany, Italy, Spain. Her scenario fits a grassroots communist-like movement better, and one of the most important things to realize about American Dominionism is that it's anything but grassroots.
The other issue, war and its effect on civil liberties, is even more important to any discussion about Christian fundamentalism. Right now, the United States only tortures or imprisons without trial people who it thinks might possibly look like Islamist terrorists. Under an explicitly Dominionist government, this national security apparatus can easily expand to disenfranchise and imprison people of the wrong sexual orientation or active in the wrong political movement.
But when I say Kingdom Coming is optimistic, the single most critical point I'm thinking of is not Goldberg's neglect of some of the broader angles concerning conservative fundamentalism. Rather, it's the repeated assertion that no, it cannot be that bad, because the Constitution will still protect freedom. Ironically, the book itself contains ample of evidence why it won't, documenting the rise of the “Christian nation” myth. And yet, it doesn't make the requisite conclusion that just like Hitler never abolished the Weimar Constitution, which remained in effect until the end of World War Two with few Nazi amendments, so can American theocrats rise to power without repealing a single word of the Bill of Rights.
In one of the articles I once read about Christian nationalism, I saw a reference to a quote that went roughly, “We can pass unconstitutional laws faster than the courts can overturn them.” Unfortunately, I don't remember who said it and in what context. But from Kingdom Coming and other articles, I can tell the American right's sentiments are rarely that explicit; in most cases, it will claim to defend the Constitution, even while it pushes to abolish its self-enforcement mechanisms, especially judicial review. And so far, it has been doing a fairly successful job at that, considering that separation of church and state remains a sham, and the federal courts are still not protecting homosexuals from discrimination.
Indefinite totalitarianism requires three things: a motive, or a suitably totalitarian ideology; a means, or a modern state apparatus able to surveil and thereby oppress its citizens; and an opportunity, or a crisis of democracy abetted by lackluster opposition. Pessimistically, the United States has Dominionism, the national security state, and the Democratic Party. Kingdom Coming understandably focuses on the motive, which is why it's so detached from the means and the related issue of warmongering. Its greatest naïve optimism then lies in understating the degree to which the Dominionist movement has the opportunity to advance.
The internationalist note the book finishes on begins with an excerpt from an interview with Iranian secularist Marjane Satrapi, in which she says, “The secular people, we have no country. We the people—all the secular people who are looking for freedom—we have to keep together. We are international, as they are international.” While an international coalition can easily backfire—in Europe, even one-superstate liberalism is ailing, let alone one-world liberalism—an intranational one can be robust.
A good optimistic note to end any discussion of American religious fundamentalism on is this: if it continues advancing, it will reach a tipping point, so that it will be easy for secularists to use its fascism as a wedge issue. The Christian Coalition, Focus on the Family, the American Family Association, and the rest of the Dominionist organizations in the US are strong, but they can't achieve anything without allies. The smart anti-fascist will deprive them of these allies by using such historical examples as Nazi Germany to drive wedges into the heart of the conservative coalition. The motive and means of totalitarianism will remain, but this active opposition can greatly diminish its opportunity.
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I live in rural Montana. My town has 1200 residents and 6 churches. As a practicing Orthodox Christian I can honestly say I don't find this hyperbolic fear of "fundamentalist theocratic Christianity" pervasive here even slightly, or for that matter, persuasive as an argument at all on the author's part. Has Alon or the author ever spent considerable time in communities that profess this dogmatic "totalitarianism" that is so apparently despised? Is it slightly uncomfortable for someone so high on their life in Christ to talk so nakedly to you about that belief? Perhaps, if one is that uncomfortable in one's own disbelief.
I would further argue that it is slightly more uncomfortable to be blown up at a cafe or on an airplane by the completely real fundamentalist theocratic Islamists. Which seems to happen somewhere around the world on a daily basis.
And perhaps even more uncomfortable is for a secular atheist, who believes in nothing sacred outside his desire to become his own personal (liberal) God to the rest of us, moralizing how evil believers of Christianity are & how they MUST be kept in check by the opposition of disbelievers. Absurd.
Who's the real "fascist" Alon?
Posted by: Tim | Sep 25, 2006 8:54:26 PM
Alon,
I visited your web blog to see who you were, & I have these comments after reading it:
The best Americans sacrifice their lives over & over again against real fascism.
You, on the other hand, seem to diminish their lives by name-calling everyone you disagree with a "fascist."
The worst Americans call everyone they possibly can "fascists" because they haven't been given everything they want by their parents and, as they got older, from the liberal politicians they've replaced their real parents with.
Sad.
t
Posted by: Tim | Sep 25, 2006 9:38:56 PM
Well thought out Alon. As a citizen of the World and not the US I can see just how the Fundamentalist Christians are steadliy taking over the Govt. in the US.
Sometimes one needs to go outside and look through the window to really see how a house is.
The US does not 'Fight Fascism' rather it often creates it. A sure sign that it is moving towards a totalitarian state.
The list of Fascists supported by the US is as long as my arm.
To claim that the govt. in Iraq is 'Democratically Elected' is a sham as one cannot have a 'free and fair' election in zone where is is no proper security. People are too frightened to go and vote.
Posted by: Bushbaptist | Sep 25, 2006 11:33:38 PM
Rather, it's the repeated assertion that no, it cannot be that bad, because the Constitution will still protect freedom.
This is so naive. Perhaps, in the end the constitution will prevail as it has in the past when people have attempte (or have) hijacked it.
But in the meantime, many many people will be denied (dare I say it?) their Goddess-given freedoms.
Slavery.
Lynchings.
McCarthy anyone?
Posted by: Sunrunner | Sep 26, 2006 6:28:10 PM
Well, slavery was implicitly codified in the Constitution, pre-13th Amendment, but you're right about the other two. Constitutions are only as strong as the establishments that enforce them. Before the early-to-mid-20th century, freedom of speech was essentially ignored; right now, separation of church and state is being ignored.
Posted by: Alon Levy | Sep 26, 2006 7:20:29 PM
And Tim, your argument isn't even circular; it's more like a figure of 8. Everyone who uses the word "fascist" in a Tim-unapproved way is wrong; therefore, you're right; therefore, I'm wrong; therefore, there's no such thing as Christian fascism.
More irrational arguments than yours do exist, but not outside the Flat Earth Society.
Posted by: Alon Levy | Sep 26, 2006 7:24:35 PM
The situation is very dire, Alon, but there are more tools, and better ones, than evoking the the Nazis when discussing "christian" nationalism.
The most effective will the economic consequences, as christianist cultures hobble, then cripple, then ruin the possibility of Americans to understand the technology they are currently creating as well as using. As the US becomes less reality-based and more reliant on what appear to it as magical technologies, the economy will suffer and there are certain hard-nosed industrialists who will not be very happy about that.
There are other things as well, but I'm tired but the economic price of fundamentalism is so great, I think it will do as the most important check.
But no, I am not optimistic. An economically decaying America will be exceedingly dangerous.
Posted by: tristero | Sep 26, 2006 8:05:47 PM
The situation is very dire, Alon, but there are more tools, and better ones, than evoking the the Nazis when discussing "christian" nationalism.
The most effective will the economic consequences, as christianist cultures hobble, then cripple, then ruin the possibility of Americans to understand the technology they are currently creating as well as using. As the US becomes less reality-based and more reliant on what appear to it as magical technologies, the economy will suffer and there are certain hard-nosed industrialists who will not be very happy about that.
There are other things as well, but I'm tired but the economic price of fundamentalism is so great, I think it will do as the most important check.
But no, I am not optimistic. An economically decaying America will be exceedingly dangerous.
Posted by: tristero | Sep 26, 2006 8:05:47 PM
Alon,
& more hysterical mumblings from indeterminate American moral heralds exist outside your always catastrophic & consistently anti-Christian concerns. I'm sure they do.
Perhaps they're populated on the dot you've focused your entire critical & political analysis on somewhere out there, on the far horizon of selective intolerance.
I do give you credit though on being ahead of the curve. The rest of the left are still running around calling everyone they don't like or perhaps disagree with "bigots," while you've graduated to calling them all "fascists."
Posted by: Tim | Sep 26, 2006 8:16:44 PM
I don't call people I disagree with fascists. I call them friends.
But yes, I've been openly calling this government a fascist one since Schiavo. Why? Because it is fascist. Not as bad as Mussolini, it's true, but it's only 6 years and Bush/Cheney still have a lot of democracy to destroy. Give 'em time.
But let me be clear. I do not, repeat: do not disagree with them. That's because they have nothing that rises to the level of an idea to disagree with.
Other than the will to absolute power. And that simply appalls me. Disagreement hardly describes it.
love,
tristero
Posted by: tristero | Sep 26, 2006 8:59:20 PM
The single most defining characteristic of the fascist psyche is to conceive itself as embattled. The tone of discourse is always embittered & defensive. All I can say is that I'm glad I don't live in Tim's little Montana paradise of Christianism. It is pretty clear that there are six churches there, but no mosques or synagogues. I'm sure there is great comity in the community.
Posted by: joseph duemer | Sep 26, 2006 9:50:00 PM
Frankly, Joseph, I'm just as glad you don't live here in "little Montana" as you are.
I do have a question for you, though. You say, "The single most defining characteristic of the fascist psyche is to conceive itself as embattled."
Being an "artist," were you pretty upset with the news of the "peaceful" Islamic threats effectively putting a stop to the operatic performances of Mozart's "Idomeneo" in Berlin today, because Mozart's portrayal of Mohammed might be considered blasphemous?
I quote from the London Financial Times, "A retired German Muslim leader who asked not to be named said he was concerned, 'This is typically the kind of reaction that shapes this persecution complex among young Muslims when what we need is a policy of de-escalation.'”
Strange that I can't find any information of Christian threats against the operatic company, even though the "blasphemous" scene that shows Mohammed also shows Jesus in the same light.
Joseph (& Alon), are you really certain, psychologically speaking, that you're not "transferring" your very real fear of global Islamist militancy onto "fascist" American Christians?
Posted by: Tim | Sep 27, 2006 1:19:34 AM
Actually Tim, I'm sure if I had moved to your town you & your Christianist neighbors would have run me out before long.
And as an "artist" & as an American, I found the cancellation of the opera in Berlin troubling; what I find even more troubling is your crude psychologizing. You apparently have access to the inner thoughts of Alon, Tristero & myself. I hope you use your super secret powers responsibly, though your demonstration of them in this discussion does not make one optimistic that you will.
Just to be clear: Fundamentalisms of all stripes are dangerous to democracy & I opppse them all with equal intellectual vigor.
Posted by: joseph duemer | Sep 27, 2006 7:50:03 AM
Tim,
Being a composer who loves Idomeneo, here's my take on that incident:
1. The opera company and the director wanted publicity. They got it.
2. It is outrageous that they cancelled the performance.
In that order.
Now, you say where were the Christians protesting? As if Christianity doesn't have its share of absolute lunatics.
I was at the Ziegfeld Theater opening day for Last Temptation of Christ,. I had to fight my way through a bunch of nutjobs holding signs that the movie was blasphemous. It wasn't blasphemous, it was just lousy.
Most Christians, like most Muslims, are secure enough in their faith not to be angered by so-called "blasphemy." A few decide to make it a cause-celebre. That indicates nothing about the character of the religion.
And yes, christianists are fascists. American Christians, which is a catch-all phrase that must include everyone from Roman Catholics who haven't gone to Mass since Communion to snake handlers and everyone in between, are far too varied a group to generalize about.
love,
tristero
Posted by: tristero | Sep 27, 2006 9:08:38 AM
Joseph,
I don't remember writing that I had "inner access" to the thoughts of you or Alon. I did raise a series of legitimate questions and debate points with you both concerning Christianity & Islam, after going to your respective blogs & spending some time at each actually reading your own words & shared thoughts as you've laid them out to blog land.
It would seem you, on the other hand, absolutely know all about the inner psychology of perhaps every Montanan in my town having read nothing of their writings or even having ever attempted to debate with one of us, what with you being "sure" that "me and my Christianist neighbors would have run you out of town before long" if you'd have moved here. Knowing the folks in my small community pretty well, I wonder if this certitude on your part says more about the kind of person you are or the kind of people we are?
However we do agree on one thing, believe it or not. "Fundamentalisms of all stipes are dangerous to democracy." I'm-my-own-god fundamentalist secluar atheists perhaps being the most caustic, no?
Posted by: Tim | Sep 27, 2006 10:00:19 AM
Tim,
No.
Speaking as someone who has studied and addressed these issues for 20 years and whose public respect for all religious and non-religious practice is one of long public record, I can safely say that you don't know what you're talking about.
Your formulation, "I'm-my-own-god fundamentalist secluar atheists," is so spectacularly wrong and wrong-headed that I am at a loss at to how to unpack it and address the myriad of misunderstandings.
I'd also like you to point out how caustic and contemptuous your formulation is. You are indulging in projection; you are the one who is being caustic.
You appear to be making the oft-repeated christianist point that a non-existent chimera called "secularism" or "secular humanism" is just as much a religion as Pentecostalism, Islam, or Sufism. The purpose of defining something called "secularism" as a religion is then assert that America has adopted it as a state religion. This is part of the agenda a well-heeled and dangerous political movement (christianism) which has as its publicly stated goal the replacement of the founding principles and documents of this country - which are based upon a clear wall of separation of church and state - with a system of government that privileges not merely a specific religious tradition, Christianity, but a specific subset - a cult - within that tradition. There's a word for the goal of this agenda: theocracy.
By contrast, the founding principles and documents of the United States are quite clear: All religions are welcome to be practiced here and none will be privileged by the government. That is not "secularism." That is Americanism.
You don't like Americanism, Tim? I can understand that, although I happen to like it quite a bit. Freedom of religion, tolerance and acceptance of difference isn't for everyone. Some people need to live among others who share their beliefs to a great extent. My suggestion is: leave the United States. It's not for you.
But don't try pretending that Americanism is some sort of atheistic "secular" religion and fight for your "bogus" right to impose a theocracy. Because if you do, I assure you, there are people prepared to fight tooth and nail to preserve American values from those who neither understand nor respect them. It would be far easier for you simply to get up and move to a congenial theocracy where you'll be much happier.
Oh, and Tim? In your response, don't try the tired old rebuttals such as a Supreme Court decision defined secularism as a religion. There is no such decision. I looked it up. There are lots of other arguments, including selective misreadings of the Declaration's invocation of the Creator, and blatant lies spread about what the Founders believed. The truth is that this is not a Christian nation, was explicitly established never to be one, and that efforts to radically overthrow this government's principles and establish a theocracy are simply anti-American.
That's not being caustic. That's being angry. Angry that in 2006 Americans still have to fight hard to protect the values they fought over in 1776. Why? Because there are real problems today that aren't being addressed while this country chases its own tail over made-up threats like "secularism."
This is the most overwhelmingly religious first world nation in the world. The number of people who call themselves "secular humanists," let alone atheists, is vanishingly small. But Americans - citizens of all faiths, creeds, or beliefs who prize the separation of church and state - there are a lot of those, Tim. And they're not fooled by cheap formulations like "I'm-my-own-god fundamentalist secular atheists."
love,
tristero
Posted by: tristero | Sep 27, 2006 2:13:26 PM
I'm with Tristero to some extent. I think the final bulwark against Christianism in America will be capital. As Michael Parenti puts it fascism exists to channel money from the poor to the rich; in the US they have managed to do this with ever-increasing efficiency through purely "constitutional" means, rendering fascism unnecessary. They will, however, continue to court and agitate the Christians to provide bodies on election days (until Diebold automates the whole system) but those Christians will be forever frustrated in their desires for theocracy. But don't despair as this perpetual delay works out in the benefits of Capital and Clergy as with each passing year of hated Constitutional government the resentment and victimhood of the religious increases, increasing their loyalty to the those very forces (Capital) which prevent their victory! Lovely, innit?
For the Christian fundamentalist, as for his Muslim fundamentalist ally in the war against America, victimhood is a spiritual victory in itself. In the twisted logic of these believers every loss is a win, every death a life, every humiliation a purification. This is the true miracle of transubstantiation.
Paul West describes Hitler's face in a way that I think is even more apt for the physog of our current Presidon't: "truculent offendedness."
Posted by: The Lord Thy G-d, Tim | Sep 27, 2006 4:51:45 PM
Tim, The philosopher Spinoza, who was also accused of atheism by people who couldn't or wouldn't understand him, once ended a correspondence with an early Dutch Christianist by noting that two people beginning from such different positions really did not have anything to talk about. So this will be it, then.
When you ask rhetorically, Tim, "Joseph (& Alon), are you really certain, psychologically speaking, that you're not "transferring" your very real fear of global Islamist militancy onto "fascist" American Christians?" you are presuming to know the state of my mind. When you imply that I am an "I'm-my-own-god fundamentalist secular atheist," you presume to know my beliefs. You don't. That is why I thought you must have secret mind reading abilities beyond the power of mortal men.
Finally, I only noted that you & your townsfolk would probably have run me off for my beliefs because you yourself wrote that you were "just as glad" I don't live in your town. It's a short distance from "just as glad" to tar & feathers, Tim.
Posted by: joseph duemer | Sep 27, 2006 5:56:27 PM
I did raise a series of legitimate questions and debate points with you both concerning Christianity & Islam, after going to your respective blogs & spending some time at each actually reading your own words & shared thoughts as you've laid them out to blog land.
Concocting a fantasy about transferrence is exactly psychologizing. I write about Islamism; the most damning things I've said about Dominionism revolve around the point that it's the Christian equivalent of Islamism.
Frankly, I'm tired of these "Why don't you mention X?" red herrings. If you think failing to write about Islamism in an amount that will satisfy your whims is a problem, you should revisit your way of judging bloggers and blog posts. If the best thing you can say is "I'm-my-own-God atheism," you're either ignorant of secularism or a mediocre liar.
As Michael Parenti puts it fascism exists to channel money from the poor to the rich; in the US they have managed to do this with ever-increasing efficiency through purely "constitutional" means, rendering fascism unnecessary.
Well, Michael Parenti got it wrong. Upward redistribution of wealth may be why the conservative elites support fascists, but the motivations of the fascists themselves are far broader than that. If fascism were merely a way of restoring the good old days of the entrenched aristocracy, fascist states would be as authoritarian as aristocratic ones, whereas in fact they're far more repressive.
Posted by: Alon Levy | Sep 27, 2006 6:09:46 PM
Alon, I love the distinction you make in your final paragraph. Fascism loves repression just for the sake of repression, whereas other systems see it as a means to an end. This makes fascism & Christianism functionally identical.
Posted by: joseph duemer | Sep 27, 2006 7:47:49 PM
I'd not made this connection overtly in my head before. It opens up some quite interesting branches.Tim,
As an ex-christian who still works in all manner of religious circles, I understand both what it's like to be inside and what it's like to be outside. It's easy while inside to perceive those seeking to understand those in your religion and getting worried by its excesses as attacking you. An attack against the fundamentalists in your religion, even if you disagree with the nutters yourself, brings up your hackles and gets you on the defensive. It's important to realise that there's a category mismatch on both sides.
As you move outside religion, you cease to see it in terms of creed but of intensity. Where you align yourself with other Christians (because it's the right religion, after all), people like myself tend to lump moderate christians in with moderate muslims and moderate hippies. To me, your arguments about whose bit of paper gives them the passport into heaven is just as credible as people arguing what colour unicorns are or what the Hydra ate. They are interesting from a literary point of view, but as far as I am concerned they are distinctly unimportant.
What interests me about religious groups is how their beliefs will filter out and influence my day-to-day life. When you are in a religion practiced by the majority of a population is becomes all-too-easy to become accustomed to the many subtle privileges as the baseline standard of behaviour to which you think you should be entitled. Of course, as an American, you feel that Muslims shouldn't be coerced from practicing their religious beliefs, but Christmas and Easter are public holidays wheras Ramadan is not. Head over to Egypt (which is, demographically if not legally, more secular than the USA) and only a minority puts up trees in December, gives their children chocolate eggs in April, and people all around you are fasting for a month. Suddenly you're aware of what the situation is like for others practising their beliefs in your country. It is not a case of fear of oppression, just a baseline of religious inconvenience.
Moving out of Christianity into "secularism" is like moving to Egypt without going anywhere. You suddenly find that the odds become tilted slightly against you where before they were tilted slightly towards. I work in a secular industry in a secular part of the world, but even I feel the annoyance sometimes when members of my government will use religious beliefs to justify positions which I find utterly pointless and illogical, or when people will listen to arguments based on no greater evidence than "the bible says." I, of course, accept that a measure of give must be there if I am to take the great freedom I enjoy, but this is why it bothers me when people who are Christians -- in most western democracies, the slightly preferred baseline religion -- and grumble either because the tilt is not quite as far towards them as it once was, or even that it is not even further tilted towards them.
The strain of religious fundamentalism that is talked about here is not you and your town of six churches (I've been to some towns like that, most of them have been very nice places, some have sucked). Your defense of "christianity" when the attack was on a particular kind of Christian is indicative of why the problem is perceived by us to be as it is. We can't isolate the negative strains of an acceptable religion -- the strains that produce effects even the majority of religious practitioners object to -- from the outside, without people getting upset and claiming that we are merely projecting our own "religious" beliefs and pushing our Logos.
Religious fundamentalism is the problem, not religion. However, moderate religion will gather around and protect fundamentalists, even work to further their goals, because they group themselves with them rather than with the moderates from other religions. It's a position which cannot be realistically adjusted, but it is the situation as it exists. Those without divine inspiration on the outside must do as best we can to address the issues and dangers as we see them. We harbour no illusions that we will be able to win you on our side completely. All that we really ask -- and the best we can hope for -- is that you realise that the common goals we all have, to protect the democratic principles which make the West better than the Middle East are, at least on this plane of existence, before you go to heaven and we go to hell, worth achieving consensus on.
Posted by: McDuff | Sep 28, 2006 8:28:38 AM
McDuff,
Your comments are very eloquent and moving. Unfortunately, you are talking about people who have been told, and who believe, that tolerance is at best a vice and at worst proof positive that the US government discriminates against the Christian religion in order to advocate "secularism."
I'm afraid the little that you ask - common cause in recognizing core American values like a love for democracy and a separation of church and state - is tantamount to asking them to renounce the truth of Christ.
In the christianist world, men like Dobson and LaHaye are moderates. They hold their tongues and, aside from the crisis du jour, are circumspect. But if you actually read the pure stuff, the stuff written by those who don't mince words, people like Rushdoony and his followers -and I have- you learn very quickly that the whole lot of them have no business whatsoever having any mainstream influence in modern America anymore than Lyndon Larouche does.
You cannot ask them for tolerance. They don't believe in it. You can't ask them for understanding. They claim that such requests prove you really don't understand what it means to be "Christian."
To be ecumenical about it, Rabbi Meir Kahane, an extreme right Jewish fundamentalist once said that American reform Jews (ie moderates) make the mistake of confusing Judaism with Jeffersonianism. It's not. The same sentiment could have easily been voiced by christianists, with the appropriate substitutions.
Bottom line: Christianists cannot be reasoned with. They can only be challenged repeatedly on their credentials to have, and to wield, mainstream power.
Regarding their religious beliefs, which are quite separate from their will to power, who cares what they think? They have the same rights to worship as anyone else. It is their will to power, and only their will to power, that is troubling. And that must be resisted. They can and have lied, they have falsified historical documents, they have distorted historical truths all for one purpose - to hide their political agenda from criticism by claiming that attacks on their politics are attacks on their religious freedom.
That is nonsense. Indeed, a genuine Christian would find it borderline blasphemy. It is a serious mistake to confuse christianism (and any fundamentalism) with religion. Christianism is a radical political movement exploiting the symbols of Christianity, not a religion. And it must be confronted on the political arena as robustly as any other bogus, dangerous ideology.
Posted by: tristero | Sep 28, 2006 9:54:36 AM
I think I may be guilty of poorly paraphrasing Parenti. The redistribution of wealth is, as you say, why the elites support fascism and not the point of the fascists, but the support of the elite is of a king-making variety; without it fascism would be high and dry. The brutality of the fascists is the logical end-result of the hysteria they must engender to overcome the normal constitutional moment. They cannot return to a society merely as repressive as the feudalistic because to efface consitutionality in any way requires a crisis, and a crisis must be dealt with in a way that shatters all the norms of civil society in order, at the very least, to make apparent that something has been done (presumably to "solve" the fictive crisis). That fascists and their minions likely enjoy a lot of this is incidental to the mechanical necessity of the repression.
But am I sanguine about the power of Capital to resist Christianism? Not really. On balance I think Sony and Disney and General Electric have too much invested in the blasphemous artefacts of secular culture to allow overtly Christian fascism, but I still regard Christianists as the single greatest and most likely threat to the actual political and cultural freedom of the American people. The avergae American's life is more likely to be adversely affected in its daily routine by Colorado Springs than by Usama and his sicky bananas.
Posted by: The Lord Thy G-d, Tim | Sep 28, 2006 1:28:00 PM
Interesting comments, McDuff and Tristero. I believe that disputes and rivalries between groups and communities are an adaptive trait in human evolution. If our hunter-gatherer ancestors would had lived in a blissfull state of harmony with one another, we'd probably still all be living today in the Rift Valley of E. Africa. Disputes and fighting pushed human groups apart from one another geographically, until humans reached every spot on earth and learned to exploit every possible resource. But today, thanks to our damn cusdness, we have nowhere left to expand into, so all we can do is bitch at one another.
Posted by: aguy109 | Sep 28, 2006 7:17:18 PM
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